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- From: dzik@access.digex.com (Joseph Dzikiewicz)
- Newsgroups: alt.fan.tolkien
- Subject: Hobbits in the Undying Lands
- Date: 25 Jan 1993 09:19:29 -0500
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- I have read and been convinced by the postings here that concluded that
- Hobbits are close relations to Men.
-
- But this raises a problem for me. At the end of LOTR, Frodo and Bilbo
- take the last ship to the Undying Lands. Later, the appendices tell us,
- Sam took a ship west to join them.
-
- But if Hobbits are racially derived from men, isn't this a problem?
- Aren't men strictly forbidden from going to the Undying Lands?
-
- My impression is that Frodo, Bilbo, and Sam become immortal in the Undying
- Lands. Admittedly, this is not directly supported by the text, but it is
- my general impression. (I don't know if Bilbo would recover from his
- senility, but I imagine it is possible.) Wouldn't this withhold from them
- the gift of Illuvatar to men? Or am I wrong, and might the hobbits die
- of old age in the Undying Lands?
-
- And what about Gimli? Does he achieve immortality also when he passes
- west with Legolas (also noted in the appendices)? (My impression is
- that while dwarves live a long time, they eventually die of old age.
- Kind of like Numenorians in that.) And is Gimli the only dwarven
- inhabitant of the west?
-
- Hopefully, this contains enough questions to keep us going for a while.
- All reasonable answers and comments are welcome, and even the unreasonable
- ones won't be flamed too badly.
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