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- From: schere@aix.rpi.edu (Mithrandir)
- Subject: Re: References to Tolkien by Led Zeppelin
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- References: <1993Jan22.023827.15017@ultb.isc.rit.edu> <watson.727716248@mariner.sce.carleton.ca>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:06:19 GMT
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- In article <watson.727716248@mariner.sce.carleton.ca> watson@sce.carleton.ca (Stephen Watson) writes:
- >rcb3654@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
- >
- >
- >>However, Zep's most popular song, "Stairway to Heaven", has a reference to
- >>JRRT in that the lyrics go something like this (and there's a lady who's sure >**all that glitters is gold** and she's
- >buying a stariway to heaven).
- >> --Chard
- >
- >If Led Zep was indeed quoting Tolkien, then Tolkien was probably
- >quoting Shakespeare ("All that glisters is not gold" - Merchant of
- >Venice, 1596) and/or Chaucer ("But al thyng which that shineth as the
- >gold/ Nis nat gold, as that I have herd it told" - Canterbury Tales,
- >c.1387). And *they* were simply repeating an old Latin proverb: "Non
- >teneas aurum totum quod splendet ut aurum", which seems to be a
- >translation of something Aristotle said.
- >
- >In other words: it's an ancient and well-known saying in Western
- >culture, and there's no reason think that JRRT was the specific source
- >for the line in the LZ song.
- >
- >--
- >| Steve Watson a.k.a. watson@sce.carleton.ca === Carleton University, Ontario |
- >| this->opinion = My.opinion; assert (this->opinion != CarletonU.opinion); |
- >"Somebody touched me / Making everything new / Burned through my life / Like a
- > bolt from the blue / Somebody touched me / I know it was you" - Bruce Cockburn
-
- The line from LoTR is 'All that is gold does not glitter'
- So I'm not sure how much the Led Zep song refers to Tolkien. More to
- Shakespeare, I would think.
- Mithrandir
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- Many are my names in many countries. Mithrandir among the Elves, Tharkun to
- the Dwarves; Olorin I was in my youth in the West that is forgotten, in the
- South Incanus, in the North Gandalf; to the East I go not.
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