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- From: das0@quads.uchicago.edu (donald andrew smith)
- Subject: Re: POPULATION OF GONDOR
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.135803.7082@midway.uchicago.edu>
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:58:03 GMT
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- In article <1joeabINNj13@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> peters@physics.ubc.ca (Dan Peters) writes:
- >>Besides, no doubt the ships were not small. Remember, we are talking
- >>Numenor at it's height of power.
- >
- >Even so, it's hard to believe there would be more than about 1000 passengers on
- >each (probably much less), and the Kingdoms in Exile seem to have _at least_
- >a few hundred thousand people, considering all the "cities" mentioned. So
- >whether they are big ships or small seems to be pretty irrelevant....
- >
- >Drin
- >--
- I always assumed that the Numenoreans merely took charge of the
- indiginous (sp.?) populations. It was clear that they had had
- many settlements on the mainland, as a previous poster pointed
- out, and I think the book makes a pretty clear distinction that
- the Dunedain were "the Kings of Men" and not mere mortals. See Bilbo's
- reference to Aragorn being "the Dunadan" or thet Denethor had some
- faint traces of Numenorian blood. The surviving Numenorians were
- never numerous (wow, alliteration! :-) ), as i recall, wasn't Aragorn's
- entire troop of rangers just a handful? As a previous poster
- mentioned, the Numenorians *were* an *incredibly* small minority,
- but that didn't stop the Jews returning from the Babalonian exile
- from reasserting contol over palestine. OK, not the best analogy, I
- know, but the point is here that in Tolkien's world, they had the
- power of nobility, or godly favor, whatever, that gave them the
- right to be kings, regardless of their military strength.
- Those rangers were *the last* of the Numenoreans, except for the Black
- Numenoreans, about whom we know very little.
-
- I don't see a problem here.
-
- Don Smith
-
-