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- Path: sparky!uunet!mcsun!sunic!dkuug!diku!klaus
- From: klaus@diku.dk (Klaus Ole Kristiansen)
- Newsgroups: alt.fan.tolkien
- Subject: Re: Language Origins
- Message-ID: <1993Jan21.113334.1048@odin.diku.dk>
- Date: 21 Jan 93 11:33:34 GMT
- References: <C13pyt.MyF@panix.com> <1993Jan20.004852.18996@leland.Stanford.EDU>
- Sender: klaus@rimfaxe.diku.dk
- Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen
- Lines: 28
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- jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
-
- >In article <C13pyt.MyF@panix.com> os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.) writes:
- >>Does anyone know from where the Elven and Dwarven languages are derived?
- >>Dwarven *definately* sounds Middle-Eastern and Elven sounds like what I
- >>imagine European would sound like if there were a single language for that
- >>continent.
- >>
-
- Tolkien's languages are wholly his own inventions. However, he did get
- inspiration from real languages. Quenya is constructed to soun like
- Finnish, while Sindarin is inspired by Welsh.
-
- > I'm not a linguist, so there may be no basis at all to what I say here,
- >but I think there are reasons to suspect that Tolkien partially derived
- >Dwarven language from Hebrew. I'm thinking particularly the "Ben-Adar" part
- >of the Dwarves name for Tom Bombadil
-
- Khuzdul is semitic in structure. The consonant-combination kh-z-d means
- dwarf. Words such as dwarf (khazad) and dwarven (khuzdul) are made by adding
- wovels (and the occasional consonant). Semitic languages work in that way
- too.
-
- But Iarwain ben-adar is Sindarin, not Khuzdul. It means oldest and
- fatherless. Since adar "father" is well known from other bits of
- Sindarin, ben must mean without.
-
- Klaus O K
-