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- From: cpage@adobe.com (Chris Page)
- Subject: Re: Saruman and Frodo (was Re: Power of races)
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- References: <1j3m36INNemi@mirror.digex.com> <1j3mp1INNf1e@mirror.digex.com> <B3DC=V692@linac.fnal.gov> <1993Jan15.140211.2508@athena.mit.edu> <1993Jan18.081925.22812@b11.b11.ingr.com> <1993Jan18.170531.12178@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> <jjonsson.331@alexandria.lib.utah.edu>
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- Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:51:05 GMT
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- In article <jjonsson.331@alexandria.lib.utah.edu>,
- jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu wrote:
- >
- > In article <1993Jan18.170531.12178@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> er@iscp.bellcore.com (Elie Rosenfeld) writes:
- >
- > >In article <1993Jan18.081925.22812@b11.b11.ingr.com>, craig@b11.b11.ingr.com (Craig Presson) writes:
- > >|> The parts before and after what was quoted are interesting too--
- > >|> "There waqs a strange look in his eyes of mingled wonder and rspect
- > >|> and hatred. ' You have grown, Halfling,' he said 'Yes you have grown
- > >|> very much. You are wise, and cruel..."
- >
- > >I always wondered about that passage. The only previous meeting between Frodo
- > >and Saruman was when Saruman met the hobbits and company on the road back North.
- > >This was only a short while before the quoted scene, and nothing really
- > >significant happened to Frodo in between (certainly not when compared to what
- > >he went through before that!) So what did Saruman mean? "Grown" since when?
- > >--
- >
- > Saruman doesn't have to be referring only to the time between when they last
- > met. I'm sure he is referring to Frodo's whole journey. I can't imagine
- > Saruman not having personal knowledge of Frodo before his journey, so great
- > were his powers, what with spies, unknown magic and the palantir. . .
-
- When Saruman said "You have grown, Halfling", I originally took it to mean
- that he was speaking about Hobbits as a race, esp. considering Sarumans
- time
- scale is much larger than theirs and that he has "known" them for quite a
- long time.
-
- Chris Page
- Adobe Systems, Inc.
- cpage@mv.us.adobe.com
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