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- From: rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla)
- Subject: Re: control
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- In article <1k7cohINNqu3@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan27.173349.23024@cs.yale.edu> rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) writes:
- >>Hmm...That's not what I'm concerned about, really. I'm concerned about
- >>the logical problems that this brings up. Consider: If, as I say,
- >>having to register for the draft makes you less than a person,
- >>then men are made less than people. If women are denied their
- >>reproductive rights and made less than people, then I don't quite
- >>see what you're using as a benchmark for what a person is. You see
- >>what I'm trying to say? I know the argument isn't very clear, but
- >>I hope it's clear enough. IF not, I'll try to clarify.
- >What, that by definition everybody is then
- >'less than a human?' Is that what you mean to say?
- Yes, pretty much. May not be a very good point, but that's what it
- is.
-
- >Not that I figure a term of slavery is a good idea or anything. But it frankly
- >doesn't make any more sense to me that the government could force men to
- >fight for their country against their will (though there is the 'out' for a
- >conscientious objector) than forcing women to bear children. If the country,
- >or the society, is so sick that people who share it with others are unwilling
- >to fight/bear children, then the country/society is too sick to survive, and
- >should be allowed to die.
- I certainly agree with this.
-
- > Which is to say, in a 'moral' universe (yep, that's
- >flamebait, folks) pure self interest would function to create and maintain
- >nations if and only if nations were a useful social construct. Ditto birthing.
- >Therefore, personal choice is the motor behind all social interaction.
- I don't quite see that you have addressed my point. Do you think
- you have? If so, perhaps you can explain more clearly.
-
- -Ekr
-
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