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- From: mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz)
- Subject: Re: Deficit
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- Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:46:36 GMT
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- Ted Frank (thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote:
- : In article <C1ALA4.EpB@unix.portal.com> mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz) writes:
- : >Ted Frank (thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote:
- : >: In article <C18sw2.A51@unix.portal.com> mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz) writes:
- : >: >Ted Frank (thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote:
- : >: >: Deficit as percent of GNP doesn't tell us enough -- I wouldn't mind
- : >: >: a high percentage, just so long as the economy is growing faster than
- : >: >: the debt. I'm going to use debt/GNP rather than deficit/GNP.
- : >: >:
- : >: >: As percent of GNP, debt (rather than deficit) was steadily declining
- : >: >: from Truman to Nixon, levelled under Nixon, stayed level until Reagan,
- : >: >: and has been skyrocketing ever since.
- : >: >
- : >: >Why not consider debt to income ratio?
- : >
- : >No, income is tax (and other) revenues. About $1.2 Trillion in 1992.
- :
- : But "tax revenues" tells us too little. If taxes are 2% of GNP, then
- : there's lots of room to expand "tax revenues." If taxes are a huge
- : proportion of GNP, there isn't. If we need to include GNP in the
- : equation to make the "tax revenue" ratio tell us anything, then
- : we might as well use GNP, and cut out the middleman.
- :
-
- Tax revenues do not tell us too little. GNP tells us too little :)
- Actually GNP tells us what tax revenues will be. Revenues are about
- 26% of GNP. Its been that way for a long time, too. Juggling various
- tax rates will still keep it at 26% - it just shifts the burden of
- paying the tax.
-
- : >If you really take GNP into account, you need to consider public AND
- : >private sector debt...
- :
- : Be my guest. But that's a different topic than the one everyone else
- : was talking about.
-
- It is not a different topic. If you use GNP instead of revenues, then the
- total of all debt could easily be $18 Trillion or more, without problem.
-
-
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- : ted frank | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu
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- : the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
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