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- From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.com (Michael P. Deignan)
- Subject: Re: alt.discrimination = alt.caucasian
- Organization: Small Business Systems, Incorporated, Smithfield, RI 02917
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:07:10 GMT
- Message-ID: <C1E3By.GGJ@anomaly.sbs.com>
- References: <1993Jan15.225250.10707@anomaly.sbs.com> <1993Jan16.012902.10927@news.acns.nwu.edu> <1993Jan16.070036.3324@anomaly.sbs.com> <1993Jan22.204157.19334@news.acns.nwu.edu>
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- I had written:
-
- >I have stated that perhaps the reason "white" people moved out of a
- >particular neighborhood was due to an increase in the crime rate. It
- >certainly has been a large contributing factor in my area.
-
- dowdy@tochtli.biochem.nwu.edu (Dowdy Jackson) writes/attempts to put words
- in my mouth as follows:
-
- >Now here you state that you KNOW that the increase in crime, in your area,
- >plays a part in the whites moving away. You also IMPLY that this is due
- >to an increase in the number of "minorities" moving into your area. By
- >minority am I to assume you mean AfAms ?
-
- I KNOW that the crime rate in my area has jumped about 200% in the past
- five years.
-
- I KNOW that there has been a large influx of upwardly-mobile minorities
- into the area during that same time period.
-
- I do not single out any one minority group, as, in traditional American
- melting pot style, the minorities have consisted of blacks, hispanics,
- and asians.
-
-
- >You stated previously that the whites in your area are moving out in part due
- >to the increase in the crime rate.
- >I would like to know what source are you using
- >to judge whether or not the crime rate has actually increased in your area.
-
- My father is a 30-year gold shield of the police force. Furthermore, when
- purchasing our current home we used crime statistics accumulated from the
- state/city law enforcement offices to determine which areas were classified
- as "low crime".
-
-
- >Now here you do it again ! You IMPLY that there is a correlation. Get real !
- >Then you make another ridiculous statement by saying that "maybe" minorities
- >are MORE tolerant of crime than whites ????
-
- I have stated two facts. I have made no attempt to correlate the two. It would
- be interesting to perform a study of minority groups in "white" areas which
- are experiencing a crime increase to determine if in fact they (the
- minorities) have different attitudes towards crime.
-
- Of course, you're not really interested in sociological research now, are
- you? You're just interested in hot-headed, delusional accusations of
- "them white boys are out to get me."
-
-
- >Your stupidity never ceases to
- >amaze me !
-
- Gee, guess you're going to start resorting to those personal attacks like
- you used to in MISC.JOBS, huh? And here I thought that perhaps you had
- grown up.
-
-
- >By the fact that as soon as the AfAm population in a given "white" area
- >reaches 8%, the whites feel the need to move.
-
- Do you have a source?
-
-
- >Get over it and move on. I did not say anything that you yourself didn't
- >say or IMPLY already...
-
- I imply nothing. Apparently you are still have some growing up to do.
-
-
- >No conspiracy.... Just facts....
-
- "Facts" conjured up in your own mind. Care to cite references?
-
-
- >Once again..... You stated that there was an increase of crime in your area
- >and then you state that there has been more minorities moving into
- >your area
-
- Two indisputable facts.
-
-
- >then you finally say that maybe minorities are more tolerant of
- >crime than whites
-
- Perhaps they are? Do minorities like to live in a crime-ridden area? I
- think not. Certainly the ones that I know do not.
-
- Do minorities have the same capacity to move out of the area that
- whites do when there is a crime increase? I don't know, I haven't
- studied the issue or performed any primary research.
-
-
- >Sounds to me like you are saying that the increase
- >of crime in your area is related to the increase in the minority population
- >in your area.
-
- Sounds like you're attempting to find conspiracies under every rock.
-
-
- >You also stated in a previous posting that the reason why the
- >whites in a given area move when the AfAm population reaches 8% could be
- >due to an increase in the crime rate. You said it not me.
-
- You made an arbitrary statement that (to paraphrase) "when the black
- population reaches 8% in a given area the whites move out". I asked if you
- had done any research to determine if the real reason why whites needed
- to move was the fact that "blacks" moved into the area, or if there was
- a hidden reason, such as an increase in crime.
-
-
- >What facts ! You have only given your OWN views, not facts.
-
- The two facts which I have reiterated over and over again is the crime rate
- increase in my area, and the influx of upwardly-mobile minorities. I don't
- start making up "facts" like 'when black people move into a neighborhood
- the white people decide to leave', as you do.
-
-
- >Like you know what rational is .......HA HA HA
-
- I quote:
-
- According to Professor Asa Hilliard, a black psychologist
- at Georgia State University, black students have cultural
- characteristics that whites lack: "high levels of
- energy, impulsive interrupting, and loud talking".
-
- - Schlesinger, Arthur M. Jr, The Disuniting Of America -
- Reflections on a Multicultural Society, W.W.
- Norton & Company, Inc., New York, NY, 1992. Pg. 64.
-
-
- Sounds like the Professor hit the nail on the head, wouldn't you say?
-
- MD
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