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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Sexual Discrimination
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.195411.28410@netcom.com>
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- References: <1993Jan26.085757.6320@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> <1993Jan26.185700.29755@midway.uchicago.edu> <C1IpA6.H47@cs.psu.edu>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:54:11 GMT
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- In article <C1IpA6.H47@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
- >thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
- >>In article <1993Jan26.085757.6320@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> noraa@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (aaron.l.hoffmeyer) writes:
- >>>Ted, one question....
- >>>
- >>>Given that women are awarded either sole custody or primary custody
- >>>(usually something like a 75/25 split) in roughly 85% of all divorces
- >>>in this country in which the divorcing couple are parents of children
- >>>under age eighteen, despite laws in virtually every state that
- >>>emphatically set forth that judges should NOT be biased by gender in
- >>>awarding said custody of children, are the judges and referees of the
- >>>domestic relations courts of the United States of America guilty of
- >>>sexual discrimination?
- >>
- >>I just noticed that you're comparing apples and oranges. Not all
- >>divorces are litigated before judges and referees. It could very
- >>well be the case that in 75% of divorces, the parents agree to grant
- >>the mother custody, in 5% of divorces, the parents agree to grant the
- >>father custody, and the other 20% goes before a judge for a 50/50
- >>split. It's certainly the case that custody battles are the exception,
- >>and not the rule.
- >
- >That's like saying that women had no desire to be company president
- >in the 1950's because they didn't apply. Perhaps there were a few
- >exceptions: those cases where an exceptionally talented woman pushed
- >her way through. Only the truly exceptional women would even pursue
- >it; the others wouldn't waste the time, effort, and money, because
- >the sexism was a pure and clear obstacle.
- >
- >If 70% of women who applied for company president were accepted
- >under such circumstances, I, for one, would not conclude that women
- >were treated equally or better than men.
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- Why is it that if "70% of women who applied for company president were
- accepted" you would not expect sexist hiring pactices?
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- >Don
- >--
- >beaver@cs.psu.edu Opinions from the PC-challenged
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- Rich
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- payner@netcom.com
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