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- From: chris@psych.toronto.edu (Chris Hitchcock)
- Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights,soc.men,soc.women
- Subject: Re: Sexual Discrimination
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.163712.22902@psych.toronto.edu>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 16:37:12 GMT
- References: <1993Jan26.085757.6320@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> <1993Jan26.185700.29755@midway.uchicago.edu> <93027.074324RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
- Organization: Dept. of Psychology, University of Toronto
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- In article <93027.074324RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
- >
- > I am afraid that we have in ted frank's case an example of the `gallant,
- >male-bashing' male. I do not know about other states, but in Massachusetts,
- >women got custody in 90% of CONTESTED cases. I am sure that there are
- >others who know the statistics better, and the same pattern probably
- >holds in other states too.
- >
- >Rohit Parikh
-
- There's a book which was advertised in Ms. magazine sometime during 91.
- It was the issue on reproductive technologies. In the review of the book
- it was claimed that the overall statistics for custody reflected mainly
- a failure to contest, and that in 90% of contested cases, custody was
- awarded to _men_. Rohit's statistics are dead against this. I haven't
- done any research in this area, but it seems worthwhile for the group
- who are looking into a class-action suit to look up the book, and to
- check their references on various net-statistics.
-
- I am grateful that some men are now expressing an interest in childrearing,
- and I hope that makes it easier for all of us to be balanced people.
- I still know women whose husbands walked out on them with small children,
- and never discussed options about childcare, assuming that the woman would
- deal with it. In one case she has persistently offered and insisted on him
- keeping contact with his kids (who he claims to love, but never makes tiem
- for). He still calls it "babysitting". I know a man who's partner left him
- with a child, and he has a hell of a time getting across borders, even
- with a letter written from the mother and legally endorsed to allow him
- to pass. And I know two divorce/custody cases in which the husband
- blatantly lied about his ex to try to get the kids and/or get out of paying
- any support.
-
- Why do I list all of these? Well, partly to look at them myself, and partly
- to point out that there's a lot of variety out there. In affirmative action,
- the point is to find qualified candidates, and the onness is on the employer
- to conciously override sexism and racism in implicit hiring criteria by
- awarding jobs to qualified individuals from underrepresented groups. In custody
- cases there *are* only two candidates to choose from, and you can't extend your
- search to a larger applicant pool to find a superlative male parent. So long as
- society tells women to be nurturant and males to be the bread- winners,
- and so long as most people buy those roles, I think that divorce
- and custody cases will be biased towards women who have compromised their
- outside lives for the good of the family and men who have compromised their
- family lives to support it. And when one parent has spent 5 years of their
- life in daily contact with a child, while the other has spent that time
- working and commuting for 10 hours a day, it's not surprising that the
- former gets custody more often. It's not surprising that the former *wants*
- custody more often, and that the latter sometimes recognizes a superior
- bond and does not contest. I think effort expended ought to count for
- something. For example, who took the child to the dentist and doctor more
- often, who stayed home when the kid was sick, who compromised their
- career.
-
- Having said that, I rejoice that the world may be changing, and that that
- role will not always be female. In academia I see a lot of men who are
- taking much more of a role in raising their children. I'm interested in
- what *their* children do in raising kids.
-
- Anyway, I'm all for a recognition of bias in the court systems against
- men as custodial parents, and I support efforts to change that. I hope
- that only happens when there are qualified candidates, though.
-
- Chris (who is putting on a flame-proof suit after thinking out loud about
- such a touchy topic).
- --
- Chris Hitchcock, Dept. of Psychology chris@psych.toronto.edu
- University of Toronto in my new life: clh@vax.ox.ac.uk
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