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- From: rezabek1037@iscsvax.uni.edu (Will be President for Food)
- Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
- Subject: Re: Benedikt's Cyberspace
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.130843.10099@iscsvax.uni.edu>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 13:08:43 -0600
- References: <727321554.AA06230@illusion.tpg.org>
- Organization: University of Northern Iowa
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- > You may be interested to know he is very wary of the entire movement -- he
- > tends to "disown" the cyber-punk culture. Most of them have missed the point
- > of his book (and of many SF novels) -- Science Fiction doesn't predict the
- > future, it attempts to avoid it. Gibson has had people approach him with
- > machines they built inspired by his book. In the interview he expressed the
- > opinion that such people have obviously missed "the point" of his book.
- >
- > In other words, before you embrace this shiny gritty nasty glamourous
- > dangerous (and embarrAsingly cinematic) underbelly of technology, take a step
- > back and see what it's really about!
-
- yup yup yup!! he spawned a meme, and it got away! and now, it's something else.
- it really IS going to be a nasty trip if it's not in some way harnessed. that,
- i guess, is what i'm interested in. it's here, it's already developing; i want
- to posit ways that it can actually be turned, AGAINST ITS GRAIN, almost, into
- something USEFUL FOR/TO HUMANITY. we'll see. but i CAN't disown it, because
- it's already having an effect. my only option, as i see it, is to hunt for ways
- for me to *nudge* it in the here & now.
-
- > I doubt it. If he had Trade Marked the word, maybe. I think it has become a
- > piece of contemporary language -- like Cyberpunk, or Star Wars.
-
- yup. once a meme's out there, there's no way to call it back. but at the same
- time, the sort of "urban sprawl" state of "cyberspace" at this point is not HIS
- fault; it's ours and anyone who doesn't try to change it.
-
- > Question: WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN MIND? I'm not out to steal your ideas, I'm just
- > curious about the feasibility (or necessity) of something called
- > "Cyberspace".
-
- what i have in mind is re-appropriating "cyberspace" for the utility of culture
- as a whole (hah! oxymoron there!), directing it away from the state of
- collapsing in on itself that it's currently engaged in. and, i guess, of
- suggesting useful tools & ideas for people who have similar desires.
-
- > Also, do you know anything about "Tupple-space"? It's a system for sharing
- > computers in a paralell processing system, but I'd like more details if you
- > have them.
-
- ummm... i for one don't know. anyone? anyone? we can ALWAYS use more details!!
- that should be an axiom of virtuality if it weren't so infuriating! :)
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- "one's noise is another's information...
- there IS no noise, only signal. there IS no signal, only noise."
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