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- From: 6489mcadamsj@vms.csd.mu.edu (John McAdams)
- Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
- Subject: conspiracy
- Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:46:56 GMT
- Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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- In article <1993Jan20.154658.6643@linus.mitre.org>, howells@bird.mitre.org (Timothy P. Howells) writes:
-
- >John McAdams wrote:
- >
- >>> I'd like to know what evidence there is that Warren was told a
- >>> priori what the conclusions had to be.
- >
- >I replied with (among other things) quotes from J.Edgar Hoover and
- >Nicholas D. Katzenbach which were issued the day of the assassination,
- >and the day after, stating that "The public must be satisfied that
- >Oswald was assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still
- >at large; that the evidence was such that he would have been convicted
- >at a trial." (That particular quote was from Katzenbach, but clearly
- >reflected Hoover's point of view.)
- >
- >McAdams replies:
- >
- >> If he (and Katzenbach) believed that Oswald really was the
- >> assassin, then wanting the public convinced of that was perfectly
- >> reasonable.
- > ...
- >
- >> You're just begging the question, by assuming that supporting the lone nut
- >> theory conflicted with finding the truth.
- >
- >The point here is that the statements from Hoover and others regarding
- >the necessity of propping up the Lone Nut theory were issued within 24
- >hours of Oswald's arrest: long before any credible investigation could
- >even have begun. Do you really believe that by the day after the
- >assassination, the FBI had satisfied itself that Oswald was the
- >assassin, and that he had acted alone?
- >
-
- By the day after the assassination the evidence against Oswald was
- overwhelming. As to his having confederates, no one can ever actually prove he
- didn't. But the FBI would probably have known he was a leftist (his pro-Cuba
- activities, for example), and known it didn't *know* that he was any sort of
- agent. They doubtless knew enough about his history (defecting to Russia and
- returning) to know that he looked at lot like a nut and not at all like a savy
- intelligence operative.
-
- >> It seems to me that most conspiracy theorists believe that the members of the
- >> had to be "in on" the coverup. The conspiracy theorists seem to believe that
- >> there was all this *clear evidence* of a right wing conspiracy, and that the
- >> Commission quite *deliberately* covered it up.
- >
- >You're just setting up a straw man. We conspiracy mongers are used to
- >this by now, but I'm sure you'd find it more productive to have a
- >dialog with us directly.
- >
-
- How is it a straw man? Do or do not conspiracy theorists believe there was
- "clear evidence" of a gunman on the grassy knoll?
-
- Are you admitting that the evidence was *not* very clear that the lone gunman
- interpretation was wrong? Are you saying that Warren Commission members could
- in good faith reach the conclusions they did?
-
- .John
-