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From: [e-mail] (John W. Redelfs)
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Subject: Re: What the Trilateralists truly intend
Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:59:05 GMT
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In a previous article, [e-mail] (Ted Frank) says:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John W. Redelfs) writes:

>>Since objectivity is ALWAYS absent in any publication, it behooves the
>>reader to ask himself, "What axe is being ground here?"  The axe ground
>>over time by FOREIGN AFFAIRS is the axe of globalism.  They want to see
>>a New World Order, a global government.
>
>1) Even assuming this were true, so what?
>
>2) What evidence do you have that this is true in the first place?
>
>3) What evidence do you have that FOREIGN AFFAIRS is more sinister than,
>   say, the Yale Law Journal?  After all, I've *seen* courts cite to the
>   Yale Law Journal...

My answers: 1) If the United States is incorporated into a global
superstate, as I maintain the CFR and the Trilateral Commission are
trying to promote, our nation would lose its sovereignty and our
citizens would lose the Constitutional protections of their most basic
rights because the charter of the superstate (UN charter?) would
supercede it.  2) The growing power of the United Nations and the
dwindling influence of the U.S. Constitution in national and
international affairs ought to be evidence enough for anyone who really
wants to see the problem.  For one who does not want to see the problem,
probably no amount of evidence will persuade.  How do we prove that
trees are taller than grass?  One can always produce a very short tree
with a very tall blade of grass.  3) FOREIGN AFFAIRS is NOT sinister IF
you approve of what Henry Kissenger and Lawrence Eagleburger, et al are
trying to do in the world.  If you do not approve of the emergence of a
world superstate and the trashing of the U.S. Constitution, then
FOREIGN AFFAIRS is sinister because it is the official publication of
that elitist organization in this country most devoted to a so-called
New World Order.

What about the YALE LAW JOURNAL?  I know nothing of the YALE LAW
JOURNAL.  I am not an attorney or a Yale alumnus.  But I see no reason
why FOREIGN AFFAIRS and YALE LAW JOURNAL both, could not be promoting
the incorporation of the United States into a world superstate at the
expense of national sovereignty and our Constitution.

Let me hurry to add that I believe many of those who desire a world
superstate, a so-called New World Order, are good and decent men who want
nothing more than an end to war and a peaceful international
marketplace.  Who could begrudge them that?  These are noble desires.  I
applaud them for such.

But I and many others believe a world superstate is a pipe dream.  It
could only be accomplished at the expense of U.S. sovereignty and the
Constitution.  It would certainly result in a global dictatorship
reminiscent of that portrayed in Orwell's novel, 1984 or BRAVE NEW WORLD
by Aldous Huxley.

In the real world there seems to be a tradeoff between peace and
freedom.  It is very difficult to have both at the same time.  Some
consider peace the ultimate good even if it means slavery for all
mankind.  Others feel that freedom is the ultimate good even if it
means there is no solution to the problem of war.





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