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- From: jad@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (John DiNardo)
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- Subject: Part 30, The Casolaro Murder --> The Feds' Theft of Inslaw Software
- Keywords: CIA = Murder Inc., CIA desecrates the People's Constitution
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- Date: 21 Jan 93 21:05:03 GMT
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- I made the following transcript from a tape recording
- of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
- WBAI-FM (99.5)
- 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
- New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707
-
- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
- (continuation)
- PAUL DeRIENZO:
- There is conflict on these [deaths], but they are very suspicious.
- One actual murder that nobody will deny was that of Mr. Alvarez,
- the crusading member of the Cabazon Indians who opposed the ....
-
- HARRY MARTIN:
- Absolutely! And he was shot with two other people, execution style.
- Jimmy Hughes was a man who worked for Wackenhut and who was the
- bag-man to bring the money over [to pay for the contract murders
- of Fred Alvarez and company]. And he has testified to the
- Riverside County [California] District Attorney's office. He is
- now in hiding in Guatemala, of course. That's where Mr. Ng
- was down to see him. He also carried a lot of other information
- which was extremely damaging. We were able to talk to people who
- helped him escape, because he came up this way at first, and now
- he's down in Guatemala. The Indian situation itself is its own
- scandal. Then there's the Wackenhut Corporation, and you get
- into Inslaw .... Like I say, its just so wide you would need a
- massive computer just to do a chart.
-
- PAUL DeRIENZO:
- Can we focus now on Alvarez? Can you tell us that story?
-
- HARRY MARTIN:
- Alvarez was basically the head of the Cabazon Indians, and when
- Wackenhut and Dr. Brian and people came in to take over and create
- the gambling parlors and to convert the Inslaw software and to
- manufacture chemical warfare weapons and so forth, he protested.
- He wanted control of the Indian tribe back. And he was summarily
- executed. The money came from the people who were running that,
- according to the testimony of Jimmy Hughes, which is on file with
- the State of California in the Riverside County D.A.'s office.
- Incidentally now, after all these years they have finally reopened
- that case in Riverside because of the publicity associated with
- the Inslaw case.
-
- PAUL DeRIENZO:
- At first, there was a grand jury investigation and there were no
- indictments or suspects mentioned in that first investigation.
-
- HARRY MARTIN:
- And yet, Hughes testified to names, places, events, everything.
-
- PAUL DeRIENZO:
- Mr. John P. Nichols, who was at that time the head of the tribe
- and who now is an advisor to the Cabazon Indians, said that the
- death of Mr. Alvarez and two non-Indian companions, who were found
- shot to death with him, had nothing to do with what's going on in
- the Cabazon reservation.
-
- HARRY MARTIN:
- Yet, Jimmy Hughes has testified to the Riverside people that
- John Nichols is the one who gave him the money to deliver to the
- hit-man in Palm Springs. Also, Mr. John Nichols was later on
- convicted for murder-for-hire and his sons are now technically
- running the tribe.
-
- PAUL DeRIENZO:
- He was actually convicted rather than charged? I heard he was
- brought up on charges. But he was actually convicted of that?
-
- HARRY MARTIN:
- Absolutely.
-
- PAUL DeRIENZO:
- But Mr. Nichols seems to have a tremendous amount of support.
- >From what I understand, he's getting a lot of support from
- liberal figures such as James Aboureszk, the former senator from
- South Dakota.
-
- HARRY MARTIN:
- You have to understand, Mr. Nichols, by his own boasting and
- through other publications, indicates that he was involved in
- the assassination of [democratically elected President of Chile,
- Salvador] Allende, and he was involved in the attempted
- assassination of [Cuban Premier Fidel] Castro. His links as a
- C.I.A. contractor -- his links with the Mafia are well documented
- with the State of California. Therefore, obviously he's going to
- get some support from groups that are probably within that channel.
-
- .....
-
- SAMORI MARKSMAN:
- Harry Martin, we'd like to thank you very much for joining us
- again here on WBAI. Any closing points that you would like to make?
-
- HARRY MARTIN:
- Well, just that Danny's concept of an "Octopus" .... you can see
- exactly what he was talking about. The tentacles went everywhere,
- and he seemed to be on the verge of breaking a lot of that
- information. And then all of his records, everything disappeared.
- And he died. To say that a journalist would commit suicide when
- he's on the verge of breaking a big story is ludicrous because
- anybody knowing a journalist knows that once they are on a drive,
- neither food nor anything else matters but to get that story
- across. He was very close to it, and you don't cash in the chips
- on the verge of winning the jackpot.
-
- SAMORI MARKSMAN:
- So true. Harry Martin, publisher of the Napa [California] Sentinel,
- thank you very much for joining us here on WBAI, non-commercial,
- listener-sponsored Pacifica Radio at 99.5 FM in New York City.
- (to be continued)
- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
- Transcribed by John DiNardo
-
- If we seriously listen to this "God within us" ["conscience",
- if you will], we usually find ourselves being urged to take the
- more difficult path, the path of more effort rather than less.
- .... Each and every one of us, more or less frequently, will hold
- back from this work. .... Like every one of our ancestors before
- us, we are all lazy. So original sin does exist; it is our laziness.
-
- M. Scott Peck
- THE ROAD LESS TRAVELED
-