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From: [e-mail] (John DiNardo)
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Subject: Part 5,  LURE TO WAR: Bush Sucks Saddam Into Kuwait [Stockwell]
Keywords: LURE TO WAR: Bush Sucks Saddam Into Kuwait [Stockwell]
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        I made the following transcript from a tape recording
        of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
               WBAI-FM (99.5)
               505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
               New York, NY 10018       [phone]

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                        (continuation)
JOHN STOCKWELL:
Now, since the "Good War One," World War II, we've had the CIA's
Secret Wars. We've had two serious wars: Korea and Vietnam. But
we've had the CIA running its low-intensity conflicts, its secret
wars around the Globe. A lot of them. I'll mention that, kind of in
passing, tonight because we have so much ground to cover. We've
been destabilizing target governments in every corner of the Globe.
We set up a system of governing by oligarchies -- proxy government
working through oligarchies in these countries who are permitted
to become fabulously rich. This is the case in the Persian Gulf,
the oil emirates who have a 0.5 percent of the population of
billionaires and millionaires, and the rest of the people share
less or none at all of the country's wealth. In Latin America,
Central America, this same system is working. If the people don't
like it, you organize the police into death squads as we've done
in many countries including, conspicuously, El Salvador, and you
kill enough of them that they are emasculated. They can't do
anything about it.  They are crippled.  They are repressed and
suppressed and oppressed, and you can get by with this system of
milking the countries to your will and to your way.

The [Sen. Frank] Church Committee of 1975 ..... Again this is not a
lecture about the Secret Wars of the CIA. That's a separate lecture.
I could give it again, but it takes a full hour in its own right.
But you must know how the CIA weaves into this war complex -- this
war machinery of ours. The Church Committee of 1975 investigated
CIA "actions" and found that we had run -- if you extrapolate the
figures -- about thirteen thousand-plus [covert operations] since
we've had the CIA -- since World War II. Now, a lot of these are
fairly benign, and some of them fairly trivial. But a lot of them
are VERY violent, and some of them lead into wars. A long
destabilization/propaganda campaign led us into the Korean War, and
another one led us into the Vietnam War. Now, scholars, including
myself, reading these things -- and we have so many of them in the
public record that it's obviously very difficult to know exactly
how many people died in Vietnam or in Korea or in Nicaragua or in
the Congo -- but still, working with conservative figures we come
up with a minimum figure of SIX MILLION PEOPLE killed in the Secret
Wars of the CIA through its destabilizations over these past forty
years:
  One million people killed in the Korean War;
  Two million people killed in Vietnam;
  One to two million people killed in Cambodia;
  Eight hundred thousand people killed in Indonesia;
  Fifty thousand people killed in Angola.
Now that began with the war that I organized as Commander of the
Angola Task Force, working for a subcommittee of the National
Security Council in Washington in 1975 and 1976. Fifty thousand is
the number that the Sandinistas and The New York Times pretty much
agreed on were killed and wounded in Nicaragua in the ONE BILLION
DOLLAR Contra destabilization in that country that we effected in
the 1980s.

Now, these six million [people killed from] CIA activities, are all
part of the Cold War in which probably about TWENTY MILLION PEOPLE
were killed. And that makes it the second or third bloodiest war
in all of human history, which is saying a lot. I call it also the
Third World War. You could call it the Forty Years War of the
twentieth century.

I call it the "Third World"  War because when you analyze these
things and read through them in the public record, which, again,
is massively documented .... And by the way, the last third of this
book [THE PRAETORIAN GUARD] is a bibliography of the best 120 books
on the subject, organized to make it easy for you to access each
one with a mini-review, so you can decide which book will be most
interesting and useful to you, and what this theme is all about.
[When you analyze these crimes] you find that we do not do these
massive bloody things against the Soviet Union.  Torture and death
squads we do not run in England or Canada or Belgium or Sweden or
Switzerland. They are, virtually all of them, done against countries
of the Third World where the governments of those countries are not
strong enough to prohibit us, to prevent us from brutalizing their
people. The six million people killed are people of the Third World:
people of the Mitumba Mountains of the Congo, and the jungles of
Southeast Asia, and the hills of Nicaragua. And now, of course, the
Middle Eastern deserts, in a new wrinkle on this system.

The casualties in Nicaragua -- fifty thousand people -- they were
not Russians.  They were not Cubans.  They were not even mostly
Sandinistas. They were mostly rag-poor peasants, including a high
percentage of women and children.  Communists?  They were mostly
ROMAN CATHOLICS!  Enemies of the United States?  Nah.  We had
thousands of [W]witnesses [for Peace] who went down to live with
them -- to see. And they invariably came back and told us that the
Nicaraguan People are the warmest people on the face of the Earth.
They couldn't understand [why], but the Nicaraguans love the United
States -- the people from the United States; and that these people
had trouble understanding why our Government would want to hire an
army to send down there to brutalize them:  to haul them out of
their homes, and rape them, and slash off their breasts, and cut off
their testicles while their children were forced to watch, which is
what the Contra program did. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
documented cases.

This is where I came up, then, in writing about the Angola War,
with my thesis, the title of my first book: IN SEARCH OF ENEMIES.
We were taking this war in Angola to people who did not want to be
our enemies -- as we did in Vietnam -- as we did in Cuba and other
places. The point of the CIA's activities is they .....ten thousand,
thirteen thousand operations -- three thousand major,  gory,  bloody
operations, killing six million people .... they [the CIA] have made
the world unstable. The six million people each leave behind an
average of perhaps five loved ones who are traumatically conditioned
to violence, who will go on continuing violence and keeping the
world unstable and violent for the rest of their lives.  And in an
unstable world that's brimming and teeming with violence, you can
spend trillions of dollars on the arms that you could not spend if
the world were, in fact, peaceful.

[JD: Before we can stop our rulers' genocide, we have to recognize it!
   Here we have evidence that the Central Intelligence Agency of
   the Government of the People of the United States of America is
   three times more genocidal than Hitler's Nazi Third Reich, for,
   under the American People, our Central Intelligence Agency has
   led three Nazi holocausts. The CIA was the instigating catalyst
   for the extermination of twenty million people!]
                      (to be continued)
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        The America Public is evidently in dire need of the truth,
        for when the plutocracy feeds us sweet lies instead of the
        bitter truth that would evoke remedial action by the People,
        then we are in peril of sinking inextricably into despotism.

        So, please post the episodes of this ongoing series to
        computer bulletin boards, and post hardcopies in public places,
        both on and off campus. The need for concerned people, alerting
        their neighbors to overshadowing dangers, still exists, as it
        did in the era of Paul Revere. That need is as enduring as
        society itself.

             John DiNardo