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- From: jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
- Newsgroups: alt.consciousness
- Subject: Science Superior to Mysticism
- Message-ID: <1993Jan20.230740.2061@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>
- Date: 20 Jan 93 23:07:40 -0500
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- Some people frequenting this group have brought up quantum
- uncertianty and Godels incompleteness theorem as proof positive
- that science and logic cannot know *everything* about the
- universe. Perhaps this is true, or perhaps both limitations
- will be dealt with by some superior mathematics one day.
-
- Alas, assuming these limits are insurmountable, they also
- must affect the ultimate resolution of 'mysticism' or any
- other way of knowing the universe. If science cannot know
- it all - then neither can any other approach within the
- sphere of our universe.
-
- Why then choose scientific methods over mystical revelation ?
- Because the results of proper science are reproductable and
- availible for logical analysis and save a hell of a lot of
- time by eliminating totally unreasonable branches of persuit.
- Mystical revelation is inherently 'soft'. You *think* you
- know something, but never can really test the notions. You
- commonly come to your 'knowledge' without intermediate steps
- which could be of immense value in revealing other knowledge.
- The mystic, being unable to verify their 'knowledge', is
- doomed to waste years or even centuries investigating absurd
- notions - perhaps even falling into a 'dogma trap' wherein
- investigation is routed around concepts which might invalidate
- all those years of effort.
-
- Some claim that science and mysticism are each appropriate for
- investigating very different aspects of reality. Is this really
- true ? Given time, will science eventually cover the same
- territory and questions which the mystics claim as their private
- preserve ? If so, the detailed methodology of science will
- yeild a superior picture of this territory. IMHO, of course.
-
- -- JM
-