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- From: starr-daniel@yale.edu (Daniel Starr)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: Easter whodunnit
- Date: 25 Jan 1993 20:52:49 -0500
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- >The idea that guards were present is too easily verifiable from
- >local records, and the locals themselves. It would be easy to lie to you
- >and me, certainly, but how easy would it be to lie about a thing like that
- >in the same city where the events occurred? Lying in this situation about
- >something so easily checked out would be beyond dense.
- > Erik Powers
-
- Speaking of beyond dense:
-
- There is an obvious contradiction in the claim that:
-
- A) the soldiers said they fell asleep at their post and
- B) they couldn't have been telling the truth because if they had they would
- have been put to death.
-
- When the soldiers were (as the NT says) making up an explanation, why on
- earth would they make one up that would open them up to execution? THAT
- is a ridiculous piece of nonsense to swallow.
-
- Aside from the fact that I have never seen any evidence for this claim about
- Roman military practice, nor yet any evidence that this regulation was kept
- in the historically utterly messed-up situation in Judea, the very fact
- that the NT offers "we were asleep on the job" as the soldiers' story should
- establish that it was reasonable that such a story would be made up by
- the soldiers, which in turn means that were have in fact no reason to
- believe they weren't telling the truth. Along the way, this debunks the
- notion that there was no ready way to move the stone in front of the
- sepulcher, etc.
-
- To put it another way, if you assume that the NT is telling the truth and
- that the guards made up this explanation, you have to assume that they
- made up the explanation that best covered their posteriors. This means
- NOT using an explanation that leaves them open to the death sentence...
- ergo, there was no [realistically expected] death sentence for falling asleep
- on the job... ergo, the guards could very well have been sleeping on the job
- ... ergo, there's no reason to believe something mysterious happened:
- they just fell asleep on the job.
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