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- From: darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice)
- Subject: Re: religion in general
- Message-ID: <1993Jan25.083431.9606@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
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- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:34:31 GMT
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- In <16B60D47C.I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de> I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) writes:
-
- >In article <sumner.727643696@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
- >sumner@math.scarolina.edu (David Sumner) writes:
- >>
- >>Fred Rice writes:
- >>
- >>>Several people, throughout history in fact, have the
- >>>viewpoint that the essential truths within various
- >>>"authentic" religions are one.
- >>
- [...stuff deleted...]
- >>But more to the point, this statement lacks substance. What
- >>exactly are a few of the 'essential truths' you refer to
- >>here.
-
- I will talk about Islam/Sufism, because it is the religious system I
- happen to know the most about.
-
- >The suppression of women, a common trait of religions?
-
- Islam helped to give women rights when it was originally preached by
- Muhammad in 7th century Arabia, compared to the pre-Islamic Arabian
- culture. Today, although there are several secular-style feminists in
- the Islamic world, several are trying to give women back their rights
- which they perceive Islam gave them originally, but which then male-dominated
- culture took away. For example, one prominent feminist who seems to
- have this viewpoint is Azizah Al-Hibri. See, for example, Azizah
- Al-Hibri's article in "Women and Islam" (1982), edited by her. Azizah
- Al-Hibri is also the founder of the journal "Hypatia: a journal of
- feminist philosophy."
-
- >The lack of a declaration of human rights?
-
- There are several human rights declared in Islam. The fact that Islam
- says so much on this issue has sometimes caused Westerners to remark on
- how legalistic the Qur'an seems to be, for example. I can go into
- further details on this if you wish, but this being alt.atheism, this is
- probably better done via email or via soc.religion.islam.
-
- >The knowledge that one can fool people into believing that
- >belief is not to be justified?
-
- Well, religions do teach that some beliefs are incorrect, but
- this is a trait of practically all coherent systems of thought.
-
- >That people who believe in another religion do not know the full truth?
-
- Now this just shows that you weren't reading what I wrote before
- regarding the "Perennial Philosophy", or "Primordial Tradition", which
- was the original posting the above poster was responding to.
-
- As I pointed out previously, the viewpoint that all traditional religions
- are legitimate is expressed in several Sufi writings, and probably in
- the writings of many other mysticisms.
-
- >Actually, I wonder what Fred Rice means, too.
- > Benedikt
-
- Fred Rice
- darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
-