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- From: kring@efes.physik.uni-kl.de (Thomas Kettenring)
- Newsgroups: alt.astrology
- Subject: Re: Ophiuchi
- Message-ID: <1k6lveINNqb9@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
- Date: 27 Jan 93 18:57:50 GMT
- References: <1993Jan21.144409.1018@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu>
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- In article <1993Jan21.144409.1018@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu>, jfeldhouse@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu (Jim Feldhouse) writes:
- >Why isn't Ophiuchi included among the signs of the zodiac?
- >The ecliptic goes right thru it.
- >Why isn't it included? Anyone know?
- >
- >Thanks
- >Born under Ophiuchi, not Scorpio
- >Jim
-
- (This is the second time I'm answering this question.)
-
- That's not a sign, it's a constellation. Astrologers and astronomers use
- different conventions nowadays: astronomers use the 88 constellations, 13 of
- which are run through by the zodiac: Ophiuchus (the one you mentioned), and
- the twelve ones that bear the same names that astrologers use for their 12
- signs. The astronomers' choice of *constellations* is arbitrary, the number
- as well as names and exact borders, while astrology implies that number, names,
- and borders of *zodiacal signs* are important.
-
- The *signs* are defined by dividing the zodiac into twelve equal parts, starting
- with Aries at the spring equinox. The zodiacal *constellations* don't occupy
- equal angles: Scorpio only has a small piece of ecliptic, while Leo has a lot
- of it (if I remember correctly). Furthermore, signs are shifted with respect
- to constellations: the spring equinox doesn't lie between the constellations
- of Pisces and Aries (as it does with signs) but in Pisces, close to the border
- to Aquarius.
-
- Therefore there is no reason to use Ophiuchus for astrology. Astronomers'
- random patterns are not relevant. Astronomers will be the first to admit
- that.
-
- PS. Nobody answered, so I did.
-
- --
- thomas kettenring, 3 dan, kaiserslautern, germany
- Philosophy is the art of drawing conclusions from definitions that have been
- chosen so that one can draw the conclusions one would like to get.
- It immediately follows that philosophy is silly.
-