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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: The Cursor Speaks Out!
- Message-ID: <1993Jan24.184626.27457@netcom.com>
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- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:46:26 GMT
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- In article <1jn5jpINNdvh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> smg6@po.CWRU.Edu (Stanley M. Golem) writes:
- >
- >While you may be correct in saying that there are no known planets
- >associated with stars other than the sun, this is true only in that
- >we have no absolute proof that such planets exist.
- >
- >This is misleading. Absolute proof in the form of a space probe or
- >direct observation of another solar system is quite impossible given
- >the limitations of modern technology.
- >
- >There is considerable indirect proof of which you may not be aware.
- >Epsilon Eridani exhibits a "wobble" in its path through the celestial
- >sphere which can be easily explained only by the presence of one or
- >more "companions" with a total mass about six times that of Jupiter.
- >Barnard's star (one of the closest to us) is thought to have two com-
- >panions of 0.9 and 0.6 Jupiter masses.
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- Detection of a wobble by photographic means has always seemed a bit
- suspicious to me. It seems that the error must exceed the magnitude
- of the wobble. Perhaps use of CCDs would reduce the errors. This is
- something about which I have doubts, can anyone confirm the innacuracies
- present in photographic detection?
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- >There is also a good deal of other (indirect) evidence in the form of
- >spectrographic studies, which may be found in many introductory text-
- >books (at least in summary form). I would direct you to these for
- >further information.
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- Spectroscopic detection allows much greater precision. So much that the
- motion of the earth must be subtracted in fact. One report of planetary
- detection was withdrawn as after suptracting the earths motion, the
- signal disappeared.
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- >One might raise the objection that these companions are too large to be
- >called planets. If they are nonluminous and orbiting a star, I don't
- >know what else you'd call them.
-
- So you would call a black hole or a neutron star a planet? The universe
- may be a bit young for black dwarfs, but these would also fit the bill.
- But cooler expired stars might not be detectable due to their small
- surface area.
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- A more salient point is that in this context, the importance of planets
- is that they may be home for extraterrestial life. If we restrict our
- search to planets of a size we know can support life, then the number
- drops to zero. I am not saying that gas giants cannot support life, but
- that we do not -know- that gas giants can support life, excellent sci-fi
- by A Clark notwithstanding.
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- > In any case, their existence could
- >not possibly hurt the chances of smaller planets being present. I
- >hope this is useful.
-
- Who knows? Honestly, how do you know. Suppose the sub-star inhabits the
- habitibal zone (where liquid water is possible). Would that not affect
- the possibility of life at that solar system?
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- Rich
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- payner@netcom.com
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