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- From: krenner@byron.u.washington.edu (Randolph Carter)
- Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc
- Subject: FSF - what rubbish from both sides!
- Date: 8 Jan 1993 07:53:46 GMT
- Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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- Zeleny writes:
- >> have no love lost for proprietors of any sort;
-
- I am fairly neutral to this ongoing squabble, not being remotely
- interested in programming, the FSF or the arcane problems of various
- operating systems. However, I object to the implied assumption
- apparently held by both sides that proprietory rights, at least in
- software, are inherently bad and evil things.
-
- I'm no objecto (a necessary disclaimer when defending capitalism on
- the net, apparently) but I'm hostile to any group (such as the FSF)
- that seems to be trying to attack the notion of ownership of
- intellectual property. To give away intellectual property is
- fine, perhaps commendable - but I think that the FSF's pose of moral
- superiority as against Microsoft or Apple is grotesque and spurious.
- Be generous if you like - why be self righteous?
-
- Zeleny does not escape censure either, however. What's all this
- about having no love for proprietors? Don't you own things - a car,
- clothes on your back, money in the bank? Are your
- posessions free to all? Are you committing an injustice by owning
- things for your exclusive use? If you were to write a book and
- copyright that book, would you be oppressing anybody? If you think
- that proprietors are unloveable, why own anything? You don't seem
- to be any kind of ascetic, but perhaps I'm wrong. I don't see how
- a person can live as a free individual without exercising property
- rights - including intellectual property rights. If you think some
- kinds of intellectual property rights are invalid, then you should
- be prepared to explain why. If you think "free software" (whatever
- that means - and this interminable debate proves it means many
- different things to different people) is just a good thing in
- itself, that it stimulates activity and is more efficient then fine
- -that's a perfectly reasonable attitude. But don't attack the very
- idea of "proprietorship" in the process. In doing so you weaken all
- our rights and our freedom. Not that it really matters, of course.
- Your opinions regarding property rights seem to tally nicely with the
- inchoate feelings of our lower classes, as witness the last election.
-
- As with the head ghost in the film "Carnival of Souls" your motives and
- reasoning here are obscure, to say the least.
-
- I strongly desire that no objectivists post supporting my position. By
- rejecting God they have rejected reason and I don't want their help.
-