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- From: baford%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (bryan ford)
- Subject: Re: Fund raising at the FSF
- Date: 4 Jan 93 13:04:38 MST
- Message-ID: <1993Jan4.130439.26189@hellgate.utah.edu>
- Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
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- In article <1993Jan2.122330.18937@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
- >[...] There exists a clear meaning
- >conventionally associated with the term "free software", as distinct
- >from public domain software. In order to appreciate the difference,
- >you may refer to TeX, which is made available gratis, and without a
- >reciprocal obligation. When I want a new release of TeX, I have the
- >option of ftp'ing it from an Internet node, paying the AMS or somebody
- >else for the distribution medium, or asking someone to make me a copy.
- >If I were to hatch a scheme to port TeX to Sinclair Z80, and copyright
- >the result, the only force capable of stopping me from doing so, would
- >be my conscience. By contrast, the products of the Free Software
- >Foundation place their users under a reciprocal obligation to their
- >maker. If the company's name were "Free to Redistribute or Change, As
- >Long As the Changes Are Shared With Us Software Foundation", there
- >would be nothing for me or anyone else to complain about. But in the
- >present situation, the only way to justify the current short name, is
- >to resort to a linguistic trick.
-
- Hmmm... You seem to be quite hung up about short "misunderstandable" names.
-
- Does it bother you that a company named "Microsoft" sells hardware and
- books as well as software? Does it bother you that IBM sells things
- besides "Business Machines"? Or that the Open Software Foundation
- sells software that's anything but "open" in most respects? While
- you're bantering about short names, maybe you should be attacking
- "TeX", whose title not only has one of the most non-obvious meanings
- around, but also has a very non-obvious pronunciation.
-
- I suppose, also, that you don't call the US a "free" country.
- Probably something more like a "Free As Long As You Don't Steal From
- Or Harm Anyone Else Without The Government's Permission" country? Or
- maybe a "Free As Long As You <insert millions of pages worth of
- obscure laws>" country?
-
- Sure, maybe the title "Free Software Foundation" is somewhat of a
- "linguistic trick" that can cause confusion for people that like to
- judge an organization by its cover, so to speak. However, I don't
- think you have any justification in presenting it as some kind of evil
- Orwellian plot designed to incite confusion and conflict in the
- software industry.
-
- Bryan
-