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- From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
- Subject: Re: A new outlook on activism.
- Message-ID: <1993Jan4.165029.5007@vexcel.com>
- Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
- References: <1hvcjmINNd6p@agate.berkeley.edu> <1992Dec31.184447.23405@vexcel.com> <168CE12C5C.DRPORTER@SUVM.SYR.EDU>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:50:29 GMT
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- In article <168CE12C5C.DRPORTER@SUVM.SYR.EDU> DRPORTER@SUVM.SYR.EDU (Brad Porter) writes:
- >
- >In article <1hvcjmINNd6p@agate.berkeley.edu> sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin) writes:
- >>I basically agree with all of this. Extreme (media-oriented) activism
- >>has value when the cause is unknown. When it is well-established, then
- >>such activism will not likely help. While we may agree on some
- >>extreme examples, there may still be a dividing line. Would you
- >>consider blockading a road to prevent an illegal timber cut to be
- >>extremist?
- >In most cases - yes. If there has been enough time to rally a crew to
- >blockade the road, then there has been enough time to make the proper
- >authorities on the legalities(sp?) aware of the situation. Even a "letter
- >to the editor" would probably bring enough publicity that the loggers
- >would be forced by public opinion to stop. Here's how it works now:
- >a) Someone writes a "letter to the editor" and the logging company looks bad
- >in the eyes of the public, OR
- >b) People block the illegal cut and it makes the paper. However, in this
- >situation, now-a-days, the activists look just as bad as the loggers.
- >
- >Battle 1 - stop the timber cut
- >Battle 2 - prevent negative publicity regarding environmental preservation
- >
- >Option A is a win-win or lose-win scenario.
- >Option B is a win-lose or lose-lose scenario.
- >
- >Conclusion: Option A will always gain a little, option B has the potential
- > for total failure, and can't be successful in both endeavors.
- >
- >Untouchable logic, well maybe not, but logic. (Something that many
- >activists don't appear to have.)
- > -Brad Porter
- >DRPORTER@SUVM
- >
- It usually takes weeks to get a letter to the editor printed. By then,
- the trees are gone. There was such a cut over a holiday weekened a
- few weeks ago. A judge stopped it one Monday, but some of the trees
- were already down. Also, in some lumber towns, it wouldn't hurt
- the public attitude. Many activists can get a small crew together
- to blockade a road in a matter of hours. It doesn't take a mob.
-
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