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- From: markp@joplin.wri.com (Mark Pundurs)
- Subject: Re: Who are you guys?
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- References: <markp.726853299@joplin.wri.com> <29611@oasys.dt.navy.mil> <markp.726862548@joplin.wri.com> <1993Jan12.193550.6011@Princeton.EDU>
- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:18:20 GMT
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- In <1993Jan12.193550.6011@Princeton.EDU> datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper) writes:
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- >In article <markp.726862548@joplin.wri.com>, markp@joplin.wri.com (Mark
- >Pundurs) writes:
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- >[deletia]
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- >>A first stab at defining what makes us human is "reasoning, free-willed
- >>individuality." (From this follows our rights: right to life, right
- >>to free speech, etc.) But we also regard newborn infants as human (I
- >>hope!); and they sure aren't reasoning. We can reconcile this fact
- >>with the above definition only by expanding that definition of
- >>humanity (and the possession of human rights) to include the potential
- >>for reasoning, free-willed individuality. Newborns have this potential
- >>and so do z/e/f's.
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- >That won't do for this boy, chum. Severely retarded individuals cannot
- >reason, yet we grant them status as human beings (at least, any halfway
- >caring individual does).
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- I did say "a first stab." Why do YOU regard the severely retarded as human?
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- >I'm majoring in mol. biology. I can't hear, see, smell, taste, or touch
- >reasoning, individuality, or "potential". Give me something physical,
- >something concrete, something that occupies space, and then maybe
- >you'll be in business.
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- I majored in physics, and I have no problem with reason, free will,
- individuality, or potential.
-
- >Tep
-
- Mark Pundurs
-