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- From: markp@joplin.wri.com (Mark Pundurs)
- Subject: Re: Blackmun calls the Roe v. Wade dividing line ""arbitrary""
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- References: <1993Jan7.154830.5314@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <1993Jan7.212033.16294@pwcs.stpaul.gov> <markp.726527365@spider.wri.com> <1993Jan11.143106.2155@pwcs.stpaul.gov>
- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:07:45 GMT
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- In <1993Jan11.143106.2155@pwcs.stpaul.gov> chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman) writes:
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- >markp@dragonfly.wri.com (Mark Pundurs) writes:
- >> chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman) writes:
- >>> markp@dragonfly.wri.com (Mark Pundurs) writes:
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- >>>> Having sex = Chancing the possibility of pregnancy. (Simple biological
- >>>> fact.) Therfore: Consent to sex = consent to chance of pregnancy.
-
- >>> Which is not the same thing as consent to pregnancy. James Woodyatt
- >>> built a pair of syllogisms regarding this not too long ago. I think
- >>> it's time to pull it out of mothballs:
-
- >>> --- begin James Woodyatt's article ---
- >>> A. Assume: It is irresponsible for a woman to consent to sex and
- >>> subsequently abort a resulting pregnancy, on the grounds that she
- >>> implicitly consented to the possibility of the grave matter of
- >>> pregnancy when she consented to sex, and abortion would
- >>> demonstrate her decision to have sex was careless.
- >>> --- end James Woodyatt's article ---
-
- >> Here's the weak link. Compare: It is iresponsible to use lethal force
- >> to defend yourself against an attack made on a dark city street, on the
- >> grounds that you implicitly consented to the possibiltiy of attack by
- >> walking down a dark city street.
-
- >> In fact:
- >> A. You certainly DO open yourself to the possibility of attack by
- >> walking down dark city streets; but
- >> B. This in no way weakens your right to life, or your consequent
- >> right to self-defense.
-
- >Right on. James' point is that if you begin with an absurd assumption
- >(it is irresponsible for a woman to consent to sex and subsequently abort a
- >resulting pregnancy ... ),your conclusions will be equally absurd, even if
- >your reasoning is sound.
-
- And James' conclusion -- that there's no basis in pro-life thought for
- a "rape or incest" exception -- certainly WAS absurd.
-
- >Chris Lyman / email: chrisl@pwcs.stpaul.gov / my thoughts, my words
- > "Dignity. Always dignity." -- Gene Kelly in "Singin' in the Rain"
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- Mark Pundurs
-