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- From: markp@joplin.wri.com (Mark Pundurs)
- Subject: Re: Who are you guys?
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- References: <1992Dec29.235055.18645@mksol.dseg.ti.com> <markp.726777200@joplin.wri.com> <29563@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:12:16 GMT
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- In <29563@oasys.dt.navy.mil> bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense) writes:
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- >In talk.abortion, markp@joplin.wri.com (Mark Pundurs) writes:
- >>In <29528@oasys.dt.navy.mil> bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense) writes:
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- >>No; it doesn't; but the mother's implicit consent to the possibility
- >>of lost bodily autonomy (to which she has a presumptive, but not an
- >>absolute, right) DOES depend on the circumstances of conception. Also,
- >>she may ethically choose her own right to life over the fetus'.
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- >WHere is the implicit consent to the possibility of lost bodily autonomy?
- >Another free clue: consent to sex != consent to pregnancy
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- The word "possibility" is crucial here:
- Sex = possibility of pregnancy; so
- Consent to sex = Consent to possibility of pregnancy.
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- >The fetus has no right to life. As a matter of fact, no one does.
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- So I can ethically kill you for disagreeing with me?
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- >>(Help me out, here; where's the irony?)
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- >Ron Think about this one (seen on a bumper sticker):
- > The road to hell is bumper-to-bumper
- > Make a U-turn to God.
- >The irony is priceless.
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- >If you need this explained, it brings to light much about your consternation
- >with those in this group who have opinions other than yours.
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- Fine. Now, where's the irony?
-