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- From: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Let me state my view
- Message-ID: <29576@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
- Date: 11 Jan 93 21:42:54 GMT
- References: <1993Jan7.233902.5458@ncsu.edu> <1993Jan11.201750.18369@ncsu.edu>
- Reply-To: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
- Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
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- In talk.abortion, jjprice@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY JAMES PRICE) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan8.025210.9017@Princeton.EDU>, datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU
- > (David Aaron Tepper) writes:
-
- >|>Have you been to alt.folklore.urban lately? Just wondering. Now prove
- >|>to me that a fetus is a human being. Go ahead. I'll wait.
-
- >My corollary is that you can't prove that a fetus isn't...Are you willing
- >to kill 1.5 million lives each year just because there is no proof that
- >they are alive....?
-
- I've kept myself from responding to your nonsense about as long as I
- could take it.
- I can't prove there is a god, or that he is/is not human. I can't prove
- there are ghosts, demons, and evil spirits (should I outlaw exorcisms
- to prevent these non-entities from being killed?:) I can't prove that
- the speed of light is the limit of travel speed. I also cannot prove
- that it isn't. Nor can I prove that man really stepped on the moon,
- except for words and pictures and such, nor even that the earth is roughly
- a sphere. (Didn't you know? It's flat. The edges sag.:)
-
- Anyway, as for your further nonsense, the ovum/sperm are alive, as is
- a z/e/f. No one in their right mind would deny this. As for classifying
- them as a human being, endowed with sentience, that I can go two ways
- on. Either they don't, as they have none of the prerequisites, or they
- have the potential (pro-lifer's favorite arguement) and should be saved.
-
- On this note, let's look back at what we evolved from. (I take it you
- subscribe to the theory of evolution, and not some fairy tale) If you
- go back far enough, you could say we evolved from some simple single-
- celled creature. Logical deduction would then bring about the conclusion
- that if we sprung from a single-celled creature, then that single-celled
- creature had the potential for sentience. To make matters more complicated,
- this would then mean, that to save a fetus because it could potentially
- develop sentience, we must save all life (clearly nonsensical, like
- your arguements) because they might potentially lead to sentient life.
- Hope you haven't had any steak, plant life, or anything else lately.
-
- Ron
-