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- From: datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper)
- Subject: Re: Who are you guys?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan10.075255.12850@Princeton.EDU>
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- Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:52:55 GMT
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- In article <markp.726641670@spider.wri.com>, markp@spider.wri.com (Mark
- Pundurs) writes:
-
- >>>>>In cases of rape or incest, AND ONLY IN THOSE CASES, the woman was
- >>>>>denied her
- >>>>>right to choose avoiding pregnancy.
- >>>>You don't consider contraceptive failure (as in, the surgery didn't
- >>>>work) to be a case in which the woman was denied her right to avoid
- >>>>being pregnant?
-
- >>>No; why should I?
-
- >>Because the whole basis for "rape or incest" bit is that in those cases
- >>the woman could not choose to avoid pregnancy. When a contraceptive
- >>fails, the woman has obviously made an effort to avoid pregnancy, but
- >>was foiled by (fate/luck/G-d/hoodoo).
-
- >These are two very different situations. Even in a Libertarutopia
- >where every person respected the natural human rights of every other
- >person -- so there was no rape -- chance ("fate/luck/G-d/hoodoo") would
- >still play a large role in every life. Rape takes away choice;
- >chance does not.
-
- >>Now answer the following question
- >>with only one word, yes or no: If a woman who chooses to avoid
- >> pregnancy gets pregnant anyway, should she be allowed to abort?
-
- >As shown above, this question assumes an equivalence which is false;
- >to answer it "yes" or "no" would be to assent to the false assumption.
-
- The two cases are not so different as you might believe. In both
- cases, the z/e/f dies. The only difference is the circumstances of
- the conception. Why is it okay for the z/e/f conceived of rape to
- be aborted, but not any other z/e/f?
-
- Answer: In the case of rape, it is a woman's right to abort a baby she
- does not want and cannot care for. Pro-choicers merely extend this right
- to include _any_ baby she does not want and cannot care for. Logical,
- simple: think Occam's Razor.
-
- Tep
- --
- I don't need you to worry for me 'cause I'm all right | Dear Lord, give
- I don't want you to tell me it's time to come home. | me chastity...
- I don't care what you say anymore, this is my life. | but not yet.
- Go ahead with your own life, leave me alone. --B. Joel| --St. Augustine
-