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- From: markp@spider.wri.com (Mark Pundurs)
- Subject: Re: Who are you guys?
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- Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 04:54:30 GMT
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- In <1993Jan10.035956.21622@Princeton.EDU> datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper) writes:
-
- >In article <markp.726625670@spider.wri.com>, markp@spider.wri.com (Mark
- >Pundurs) writes:
-
- >>>>In cases of rape or incest, AND ONLY IN THOSE CASES, the woman was
- >>>>denied her
- >>>>right to choose avoiding pregnancy.
- >>>You don't consider contraceptive failure (as in, the surgery didn't
- >>>work) to be a case in which the woman was denied her right to avoid
- >>>being pregnant?
-
- >>No; why should I?
-
- >Because the whole basis for "rape or incest" bit is that in those cases
- >the woman could not choose to avoid pregnancy. When a contraceptive
- >fails, the woman has obviously made an effort to avoid pregnancy, but
- >was foiled by (fate/luck/G-d/hoodoo).
-
- These are two very different situations. Even in a Libertarutopia
- where every person respected the natural human rights of every other
- person -- so there was no rape -- chance ("fate/luck/G-d/hoodoo") would
- still play a large role in every life. Rape takes away choice;
- chance does not.
-
- >Now answer the following question
- >with only one word, yes or no: If a woman who chooses to avoid pregnancy
- >gets pregnant anyway, should she be allowed to abort?
-
- As shown above, this question assumes an equivalence which is false;
- to answer it "yes" or "no" would be to assent to the false assumption.
-
- >Tep
-
- Mark Pundurs
-