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- From: parker@ehsn21.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker)
- Subject: Re: we are forcing women to destroy their babies!!!
- References: <1993Jan8.013330.3014@netcom.com> <1993Jan9.054754.18920@noao.edu>
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- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
- Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:33:52 GMT
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- forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
-
- >From article by bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig):
- >> forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
- >>>bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense) writes:
- >>>> In talk.abortion, forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
- >>>>>From article by steven@advtech.uswest.com ( Steve Novak):
- >>>>
- >>>>>> considering forced birth as the alternative.
- >>>>
- >>>>>Such a laugh! It's no more "forced" that breathing. In fact far less so.
- >>>>
- >>>> Then please explain the ripping of flesh, for starters. Sounds like
- >>>> *force* to me. Breathing doesn't do that....
- >>>
- >>>But ceasing to breath brings instant death, doesn't it. 100% of the time.
- >>
- >> Please explain how being forced into giving birth (by having no
- >> other legal choice) is far less 'forced' than being forced to breathe.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- >Breathing and birth are both simply biological processes. It is absurd
- >to think that anyone could legally force a biological process on anyone.
- >But just so's you can put it in perspective, ceasing to breath brings
- >extremely quick, for all practical purposes instant, death, whereas
- >birth in the vast majority of cases does not. Therefore, it makes far
- >more sense to speak of breathing as forced, than it does to speak of
- >birth as such.
-
- Hey, I think I figured out what she thinks she's talking about! She is
- comparing forced-breathing to forced-birth. She must be thinking of the
- instant death that comes from breathing in toxic gasses. (hydrogen cyanide
- if you consider 30 seconds to be "instant")
-
- She is obviously assigning a negative result to "being forced to breathe"
- in comparison to the negative (but much less so) result of forced into
- giving birth. (See her sentence up there.) I guess we were supposed to
- understand that this was meant in the context that the person is in a gas
- chamber or something, boy do we feel dumb now.
-
- >You guys are so dumb.
-
- Get a clue! On second thought, get a marshmallow, you can toast it on the
- *flames* you're getting.
-
- >SF
-
- -Rob
-