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- From: hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr)
- Subject: Re: Christian Pro-Choicers (was Re: An Abortion Argument that has nothing to do with OT and NT)
- Message-ID: <C0K0Hy.ME4@athena.cs.uga.edu>
- Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
- References: <1993Jan4.182143.16471@news.unomaha.edu> <C0G8oI.6E1@athena.cs.uga.edu> <1993Jan7.204007.15559@pwcs.stpaul.gov>
- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:17:57 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan7.204007.15559@pwcs.stpaul.gov> chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman) writes:
- >Really? _Why_ would they do that? Is it perhaps because their arguments
- >are so bankrupt they have resort to shock tactics?
-
- If there is nothing wrong with abortion, why is that a shock tactic? Would
- anyone be shocked to see a cow heart in a jar. Some have weaker stomachs that
- others, but personally, seeing a cow heart does nothing to me. But seeing
- a real dead human body in a jar with hands and feet that was killed in
- accordance with the laws of this country does do something to me. It shocks
- me-that's right. The clips from Nazi concentration camps are graphic.
-
- Is that a valid
- >debating technique?
-
- Is showing the footage of dead Jews from the concetration camps
- not a valid debating technique. Maybe those who think the holocoast was
- wrong would show these films because they lack strong arguments?
-
- Is defacing church property a valid debating
- >technique?
-
- I didnt say it was right to deface church property. I have problems with the
- idea of bombing abortion clinics, too. Or even blockading clinics. I think
- I would have to hear from God to practice civil disobedience except in
- regard to practicing the Christian faith. But I can't condemn others who
- do. They may be obeying God.
-
- >Others have explained RvW to you; I suggest you get a copy of the decision
- >and read it yourself.
-
- I don't claim to be a lawyer. I heard that from a lawyer who takes cases
- to the Supreme Court (he has his own tv show.) But I think the original
- descision is up to the last month of pregnancy.
-
- >> One
- >> Baptist minister who ran an orphanage recounts how God told him that his
- >> life was an abomination in His sight.
- >
- >What was the context of his statement? Perhaps he was trying to encourage
- >the faithful to keep trying, knowing that even a Baptist minister could
- >fall short wrt having pure motives. Yet this business of being condemned
- >by God disturbs me. What about the doctrine of "the Grace of God through
- >Jesus Christ?" Shouldn't that hold out some hope?
-
- The context of the book which tells this story is that this man was shot,
- and cried out to God in while he was in a coma. He had a vision (I think it
- would be a vision) in which he saw many things, and when the appeared before
- God, he was told that his life was an abomination. The book is "Placebo."
- I have only read parts of it, so I don't know the whole story. What I read
- was very interesting, and a friend of mine told me that the book shook him
- to his core. It sounds like a good book to read.
-
- >What forms of killing are murder?
-
- It is murder for us to kill the innocent.
-
- Link Hudson.
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