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- From: gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis)
- Subject: Re: I became pro-life...and pro-choice...
- Message-ID: <1993Jan9.023751.29274@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
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- Organization: University of Virginia Health Sciences Center
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- Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:37:51 GMT
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- In article <C0K78n.M78@ra.nrl.navy.mil> lebow@psl.nrl.navy.mil writes:
-
- [I have deleted a lot of this because you have probably read it before]
-
- }The fact that felons are concerned about enforcement seems a strong argument in
- }favor of legislation.
-
- No, that's enforcement. Notice that "enforcement" and "legislation"
- aren't even spelled the same way. There's a reason.
-
- }I will allow you your "realism" if you allow me my optimism in believing that
- }if abortion were made illegal it could not be done without accompanying
- }legislation forcing strict accountabilty by the father as well as real support
- }programs for single pregnant woman and mothers.
-
- What you call "optimisim" I would term "wishful thinking." Feel free
- to deny reality.
-
- }Politicians do.
-
- I guess it all depends on who you respect.
-
- }I'm don't at all see where that indifference comes from. There are some
- }extremely desensitized people out there who have no inhibition but the law
- }preventing them from the easy kill. That inhibition my be impotent a lot of
- }the time, but thank God for the times it makes the potential murderer think
- }twice.
-
- No, thank the legislature or the law. Your gratitude is a tad misplaced.
- As an exercise, you might consider the times you thank your god and
- the times you thank your legislature. It might give you a clue as to
- whom you owe your loyality, and what is important to you.
-
- }2) I feel that from a the standpoint of net-effect on the unborn, whether you
- }call yourself "pro-abortion" or "pro-choice" makes no difference. To say for
- }instance, "I'm against dumping raw sewage in the lake and would never do it,
- }but its OK for you to choose to do it" doesn't help the pro-choicer's property
- }values one bit.
-
- Oh come on. If I say it is good for you to choose to dump raw sewage in
- the lake, I am pro sewage dumping. If I say I won't make a law against
- it, there is little to be said whether or not I am pro or con about
- dumping sewage. If I say I'll call the cops if you dump sewage in the
- lake, I might be characterized as pro-legislation or regulation. If I
- say I will stop you from dumping raw sewage in the lake, I am foursquare
- against you polluting the lake, and I put my money where my mouth is, so
- to speak. BTW, if I tell you not to dump your sewage in the lake, you
- probably better take heed, but I won't kill you for it...
-
- In case there is any doubt, I am pro-choice and against Mr. Lebow dumping
- his sewage in the lake. Whether it is legal or not, I might indeed
- stop Lebow. I am not one of those who thinks it is OK untill it is
- illegal. Nor am I one of those who thinks it is OK just because it is
- legal...'
-
- ps nrl, is that the Naval Research Lab? Do you have (or do you remember
- having) a Hoffman camera? Does the name Fuller and d'Albert ring a
- bell? I used to work for them, and I helped install a Hoffman camera
- at the Naval Research Lab (I think there were only three of those
- "cameras.") Sorry about all that. It was a long time ago...
-
- "Here are your Mickey Mouse ears on your Mickey Mouse camera..." I
- didn't say that...
-
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