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- From: lebow@psl.nrl.navy.mil
- Subject: Re: Spoken Like a True ProLifer
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- Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:13:44 GMT
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- In article <1ifv15INNpco@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne
- Regard) writes:
- >In article <C0GEnt.E5I@ra.nrl.navy.mil> lebow@psl.nrl.navy.mil writes:
- >
- >>I was accused of unjustly reading something into a question I think you are
- >>doing the same in this case. I don't think anyone is denying the true
- >>significance of the burdens placed upon the mother. If the unborn has some
- >>inherent value, however, why should the that value be determined by the
- >>mother's value?
- >
- >Because, in this country, you get to use your own body as you see fit,
- >based upon your own values.
-
- I don't think this is true at all, Adrienne. You can't used drugs, sell your
- body, gamble, drive against traffic, etc, etc.
-
- > And that includes denying the use of that
- >body to someone else who really is, or merely claims to be, in dire need
- >of your body for their own purposes.
-
- Abandonment of a child is certainly a crime. Witness the current couple who
- flew off for a week and left their kids home alone.
-
- >
- >The only way to get around this little standing rule is to 'deny the true
- >significance of the burdens placed upon the mother.' Refusing her sovereignty
- >over her own body makes her less than any other citizen in this country.
-
- That she has the ability to nurture life makes her more than any other citizen
- in this country. I think we come out even. Not to enact and enforce dead-beat
- dad laws, and not providing housing, shelters and care for single moms is to
- 'deny the true significance of the burdens placed upon the mother.'
- >
- >How could you *possibly* justify such a thing, on the basis of the claims
- >of another person? You can't. And fetuses aren't *more* worthy than another
- >person, are they?
- >
- >If it's fair game for women, it's fair game for men, and we can use your
- >extra kidney, thanks. Regardless of your own values about that.
-
- I don't feel one should glorify pregnancy, but to equate a kidney donation to
- giving birth doesn't seem right to me. I as an unborn child will live if no
- one deliberately kills me. I as a kidney patient will die if no one come to my
- aid with a donated kidney. Death just as Life is a natural process. Killing
- is not natural.
-
-
- >
- >Think about it.
- >
- >Adrienne Regard
- >
- I have
-
- - Paul
-
-
-