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- From: updike@bug.cat.com (Michael Updike)
- Subject: Re: Questions for Pro-Choice advocates
- References: <C0IBst.F62@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1993Jan8.152922.1191@samba.oit.unc.edu>
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- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:37:39 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan8.152922.1191@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Suzanne-lucia.Demitrio@launchpad.unc.edu (Suzanne-lucia Demitrio) writes:
- |> In article <C0IBst.F62@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
- |> updike@bug.cat.com (Michael Updike) writes:
- |>
- |> >If you don't oppose abortion at any time before birth what is the
- |> >fundamental difference between the child/non-child the day before
- |> >and the day after birth ? (if there is no difference then why is it
- |> >OK to terminate before but not after ?)
- |>
- |> It's a question of drawing borders, of defining the physical area in which
- |> our government protects people and controls events. There's little
- |> difference between a child born a mile south of the Mexico-America line
- |> and a child born north of it, except that we'd protect one as a citizen
- |> and deport the other as an alien; who 'counts' is an arbitrary question,
- |> and given that, I strongly advocate drawing the line on the near side of
- |> women's wombs.
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- I think who 'counts' is not an arbitrary question. Both clearly 'count'.
- However,the consequences (death/termination) to the child/non-child seem
- to be more drastic and as such I advocate his/her rights as being the
- controlling factor.
-
- |>
- |> Whether it's 'OK to terminate' is a matter of private morality; I'd say
- |> no, not ever. But I want to see abortion kept legal as a women's freedom,
- |> and as the best of several bad choices given shitty socioeconomic realities.
- |>
-
- I think almost all of societies rules in some way address a collective
- morality or set of ethics and in the case of abortion I hope society eventually
- recognizes rights for the unborn.
-
- BTW I agree that abortion is usually socially and economically advantageous
- as are several other actions I think should be regulated by society.
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- mike
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