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- From: updike@bug.cat.com (Michael Updike)
- Subject: Re: Questions for Pro-Choice advocates
- References: <C0IBst.F62@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1993Jan8.055148.27892@news.columbia.edu>
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- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:20:16 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan8.055148.27892@news.columbia.edu>, rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert Johnston) writes:
- |> In article <C0IBst.F62@news.cso.uiuc.edu> updike@bug.cat.com (Michael Updike) writes:
- |> >If you oppose abortion at any time before birth how do you justify
- |> >this usurping of a woman's right to choose ?
- |> >
- |> >If you don't oppose abortion at any time before birth what is the
- |> >fundamental difference between the child/non-child the day before
- |> >and the day after birth ? (if there is no difference then why is it
- |> >OK to terminate before but not after ?)
- |> >
- |> >
- |>
- |> This is too easy. Before the mother had only the options to carry to
- |> term, or to abort. As forcing a woman to carry to term is an unjust
- |> invasion of her rights, this is not to be tolerated.
- |>
-
- I agree that it would be necesary to invade the womans rights in order
- to prevent an abortion.
-
- |> After birth, there is an option, other than killing the baby or
- |> keeping the baby which is available. At NO COST to the mother,
- |> the child can be put up for adoption. No cost in the sense of
- |> without infringement on her bodily autonomy, as well as in a monetary
- |> sense.
-
- Agreed. There are usually emotional and psychological costs, however. Certainly
- if a child is removed from an abusive environment the parent is hurt, but the
- life of the child is paramount.
-
- |>
- |> The difference has nothing to do with the fetus/baby itself, but
- |> rather with the options available to the mother.
-
- This is where I differ. If there is no difference between the fetus/baby
- I need to consider the rights of the fetus/baby balanced against the rights
- of the mother. It's not a pleasent choice but I think
- society has an obligation to consider this when they determine
- abortion policy. IMO the fetus/babies life should be the overiding concern
- even though this may cause emotional or psychological harm to the mother.
- (I guess that sounds cruel but whenever conflicting rights are involved somebody
- is hurt.)
-
- mike
-
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