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- From: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Challenge to Chris Lyman -- Get a real argument! (was Re: Greetings
- Message-ID: <29422@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
- Date: 8 Jan 93 13:36:22 GMT
- References: <29225@oasys.dt.navy.mil> <1993Jan8.020005.9981@ncsu.edu>
- Reply-To: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
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- In talk.abortion, dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan7.195319.12715@pwcs.stpaul.gov>
- >chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman) writes:
- >>noonan@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Michael P Noonan) writes:
- >>>chrisl@pwcs.stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman) writes:
-
- >In other words, you accidently let your true colors shine through.
- >Chris Lyman, like so many other pro-choicers, can't seem to stop
- >portraying pro-lifers as religious zealots, despite evidence from
- >this newsgroup that many pro-lifers are opposed to abortion for secular
- >reasons. If the religious stereotype were to crumble, Chris Lyman
-
- Dougie, I've yet to see a non-religious argument for a pro-life stance.
- You've never succeeded in providing one, yet you claim to be an atheist.
- Being non-committal in the religious arena myself, I feel qualified
- enough to say that the entire diatribe you've let run rampant in t.a
- has a definite religious undertone. Others here, being professed atheists,
- have made similar conclusions. Just because you say you are a monkey
- doesn't mean you are one, dougie.
-
- >of abortion rights, if he is able to, instead of rationalizing
- >his position using a stereotype that no thinking person could
- >mistake as a serious argument.
-
- The stereotype hasn't really been shown to not be true of the overwhelming
- majority of pro-lifers. Or are we to assume that not all pro-lifers
- are against abortion? (That's a "stereotype, too, you know. :)
-
- >It is Chris Lyman who is unwilling to incorporate facts into his
- >thinking. He, and others like him, refuse to consider the fact
- >that many pro-lifers are opposed to abortion for secular reasons.
-
- <whew> After getting back into my seat (thanks for the laugh, dougie)
- I have to tell you that if anyone here doesn't incorporate facts into
- their discussions, it's you, dougie (at least of those who seem capable
- of recognizing what a fact is, and do note I say "seem").
-
- Ron Think about this one (seen on a bumper sticker):
- The road to hell is bumper-to-bumper
- Make a U-turn to God.
- The irony is priceless.
-