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- From: judi@wam.umd.edu (Jay T Stein - you can't prove otherwise; it must be me)
- Subject: You had to encourage me... (formerly: Let me state my view...)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan8.094418.26919@wam.umd.edu>
- Originator: judi@rac2.wam.umd.edu
- Sender: Jay for himself
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- Organization: Washington Area Clinic Defense Task Force, Washington, D.C.
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- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:44:18 GMT
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- What: <1993Jan7.233902.5458@ncsu.edu>
- Who: jjprice@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY JAMES PRICE)
-
- >1. A fetus is a human being were as life begins at conception...you
- > can't prove otherwise so it must be true.
-
- *rolls his eyes*
-
- I can't prove otherwise, so it must be true? Oh, geez.
-
- Elvis is alive on Mars. There are exactly 223 chemical elements. You will
- be hit by a crazed toddler on a tricycle in your lifetime. In a previous
- life, I was Paul Revere's horse (gratuitous straight line to see who will
- sink to the cheap shot). Cats have souls. You can't prove otherwise, so...
-
- Really, Mr. Price, where *are* you coming from here?
-
- >2. A person has a right to do whatever they wish so long as they don't
- > infringe upon another person...now the baby is using the body of the
- > mother we can say it may be removed...BUT...this will result in the
- > death of the fetus. So the lesser of the 2 evils must be followed and
- > the life of the fetus is more imp. than the choice of the mother...in
- > the event of life threating situation both lives are equal and it is
- > then a personal choice.
-
- Define "life-threatening." Immediate, 100% chance of death? 50%? 10?
- And besides, you have not established personhood of the fetus.
-
- [Conclusion based on faulty premises deleted]
-
- > Somalia OK because we are trying to save
- > lives even if we do end up killing a few...
-
- So you're in favor of killing babies born without a brain stem for organs,
- then, since by actively killing one baby we can give life to many more?
-
- Oh, Doooooooug.... Suzaaaaaaane... might you want to respond to Mr. Price
- here?
-
- > The same with abortion of course
- > a few women will die perfoming illegal abortions but we will save many more.
-
- Thus proving that fetuses are more important than women.
-
- I don't mean this as a flame, but I recognize that there is no way to say it
- without it sounding like one. So be it:
-
- It seems that most every time you post, you bury yourself ever deeper in a
- pit of faulty logic, emotionalism and really perverted conclusions such as
- the above. Your views could use a major logic overhaul.
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- But still I fear and still I dare not laugh at the madman.
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