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- From: judi@wam.umd.edu (Judith Naomi Grossman)
- Subject: Re: Saturnalia I: "She shoulda kept her legs crossed"
- Message-ID: <1993Jan8.092902.26203@wam.umd.edu>
- Sender: Jay for himself
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- Fromn: judi@wam.umd.edu (Jay T Stein -- keeping my keyboard crossed)
- Organization: WACDTF, Washington, D.C.
- References: <nyikos.725734675@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <1993Jan5.194947.10769@wam.umd.edu> <1iglf2INNbid@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:29:02 GMT
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- What: <1iglf2INNbid@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
- Who: ramsay@math.ubc.ca (Keith Ramsay)
-
- >| = Peter Nyikos
-
- >|I have never heard of a pro-lifer say anything even remotely resembling
- >|["She shoulda kept her legs crossed"], not even on talk.abortion. On the
- >|other hand, I regularly
- >|see pro-choicers lampooning pro-lifers by depicting them as saying this.
-
- >$ = Jay T Stein
-
- >$[...] Ed Simmonds is not the only one to have said
- >$that "she made her choice when she had sex." This, indeed, is a regular
- >$staple of pro-life posts to this newsgroup
- >
- >I suspect that some of us (perhaps Jay Stein among them) are hearing
- >"she should have kept her legs crossed" and "she made her choice when
- >she had sex" in a way which makes them mean roughly the same thing,
- >and some of us (perhaps including Peter Nyikos) are hearing them in a
- >way which makes them rather different. To me, at least, the former
- >idea is loaded with extra implications which the latter doesn't have
- >(and somewhat vice-versa).
-
- Really? I can't think of any pair of interpretations which would make
- the two phrases different enough to warrant Peter's "not even remotely
- resembling" claim. True there are subtle differences - but the sentiment
- is the same. Can you provide me with some interpretation that shows me
- wrong?
-
- My point stands that Peter Nyikos is selectively self-censoring what he
- reads, just as I claimed in my original followup.
- --
- When a man loves a woman, he supports her right to choose.
-
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