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- From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
- Subject: Re: Spoken Like a True ProLifer
- Message-ID: <bob1.726426577@cos>
- Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
- References: <1ia3g9INN4nb@meaddata.meaddata.com> <1993Jan4.205628.11758@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <1icdflINNsnv@meaddata.meaddata.com> <1993Jan5.143250.8078@hemlock.cray.com> <C0GEnt.E5I@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
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- Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:09:37 GMT
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- In <C0GEnt.E5I@ra.nrl.navy.mil> lebow@psl.nrl.navy.mil writes:
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- >In article <1993Jan5.143250.8078@hemlock.cray.com> mon@cray.com (Muriel Nelson)
- >writes:
- >>In article <1icdflINNsnv@meaddata.meaddata.com> johnt@meaddata.com (John
- >Townsend) writes:
- >>>In article <1993Jan4.205628.11758@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,
- >mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
- >>>|> In article <1ia3g9INN4nb@meaddata.meaddata.com> johnt@meaddata.com (John
- >Townsend) writes:
- >>>|> >
- >>>Ergo, the right to live is contingent upon where one lives and receives one's
- >>>nourishment. Hitler couldn't have said it better.
- >>>
- >>Ergo, a woman's body is just a place.
- >>And you'll probably think I'm a 'bitter person' if I
- >>point out the inherent misogyny in that POV. But you
- >>_do_ get extra points for comparing a pro-choicer with
- >>H_____. For more extra credit, you should reinforce
- >>your credentials by posting your SAT scores.
- >>
- >>
- >>muriel
-
-
- >Muriel -
-
- >I was accused of unjustly reading something into a question I think you are
- >doing the same in this case. I don't think anyone is denying the true
- >significance of the burdens placed upon the mother. If the unborn has some
- >inherent value, however, why should the that value be determined by the
- >mother's value? At best, you can only conclude that the mother's inherent
-
- Fine words, and agreed that the z/e/f would have some value to someone. The
- one simple problem that seems to escape most people is that, in order to
- have any value at all the z/e/f must occupy some woman's uterus and get
- all of its nutients from her body and use her body as its sewage system.
- Now, you could remove the z/e/f, and then debate the intrinsic value of
- it and the woman to see who's is greater. Just make it a very quick
- debate.
-
- >value outweighs that of the fetus - one factor may be that the unborn is inside
- >her. For me, in some cases, say where the mother's life is threatened, this
- >may be sufficient. To say 'he call my uterus a place, that woman hater!' is
- >hyperbole.
-
- >- Paul
-
- REB
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- When men can carry to term, we'll let them make the rules - Me.
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