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- From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
- Subject: Re: Pro-choicers must condone infanticide
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- Message-ID: <1993Jan06.053233.39629@watson.ibm.com>
- Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 05:32:33 GMT
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- References: <1992Dec30.051334.12145@watson.ibm.com> <1993Jan1.022332.536@rotag.mi.org> <1993Jan02.045752.4968@watson.ibm.com> <1993Jan6.024236.23896@rotag.mi.org>
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- In <1993Jan6.024236.23896@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan02.045752.4968@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
- >>In <1993Jan1.022332.536@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >>>In article <1992Dec30.051334.12145@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
- >>>>In <1992Dec30.005736.24210@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >>>>>
- >>>>>"Interference" refers to detrimental effects. It is not a violation
- >>>>>of BA to have one's biological functions affected in beneficial ways.
- >>>>
- >>>>Someone whose religious beliefs forbid medical intervention might not agree...
- >>>
- >>>True, but in the context of the article from which you quoted, "beneficial
- >>>ways" mostly denoted natural gestational processes.
- >>
- >>First you said "The word "autonomy", by itself, implies freedom from outside
- >>interference." Then, in the article I quoted, you attempted to restrict
- >>"interference" to detrimental effects.
- >
- >Yes. Do you wish to argue that "interference" doesn't carry a negative
- >connotation?
-
- [Nobody interfere now; let's let Kevin figure it out for himself.]
-
- >>Interference is interference.
- >
- >Enlightening.
-
- I forgot that you need more hand-holding than most. I'll spell it out.
-
- When you said "The word "autonomy", by itself, implies freedom from outside
- interference", that was an acceptable definition of autonomy. When you then
- attempted to restrict "interference" to detrimental effects, you no longer
- had an acceptable definition. Autonomy refers to independence; freedom
- from *any* outside interference, whether beneficial or detrimental.
- Giving a life-saving transfusion to someone who doesn't want one is a
- violation of their bodily autonomy, even though the effect is beneficial.
- --
- Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
-