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- From: miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.)
- Subject: Re: What's a "partner"? (was Re: treating men as sex toys)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan8.025608.29819@tcsi.com>
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- Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
- References: <1993Jan6.205816.17031@infodev.cam.ac.uk> <1993Jan7.184304.9649@pony.Ingres.COM>
- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:56:08 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan7.184304.9649@pony.Ingres.COM> becki@squid.ingres.com (Rebecca E. Tants) writes:
- >Guy Barry (gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk) wrote:
- >: I was originally curious about your use of the term "emotional
- >: partner" because I recently had a conversation with someone who
- >: insisted that a woman who wasn't sexually attracted to other women
- >: could be considered a lesbian if she had an "emotional relationship"
- >: with another woman. I couldn't understand what it meant to divide
- >: personal relationships into "emotional" ones and "unemotional" ones.
- >: Of course you get more emotionally involved with some friends than
- >: with others, but drawing that sort of distinction struck me as rather
- >: bizarre.
- >
- >Uhm - i can understand this distinction. annecdote: once long ago i had
- >a friend (another female) who i became extremely close to, lived with, and
- >broke up with. there was never anything sexual between us, and we both
- >had other relationships during that time, but i personally list our split
- >as the worst breakup i've ever had. it felt just like breaking up a
- >marriage or other very permenant romantic relationship...
- >....
- >i see it as the very early roots of my bisexualism - all that was missing
- >was the sex. i had that same level of emotional intimacy and closeness
- >with her as with the best of my relationships before or since (more then
- >most) and THAT, i think, is what muffy was refering to when she mentioned
- >"emotional relationships".
- >
- >did that make any sense?
- >
- >becki
-
- It made sense to me -- even though my first impulse was to ridicule.
- "Emotional relationship?? Is there such a thing as an UNemotional
- relationship?" Then I put some stress on the word "relationship",
- taken in the general sense of "significant other", and it came clear.
-
- I've mentioned a book in this group, _Men and Friendship_. One of
- the more interesting points in it is that women have these kinds
- of "emotional relationships", as tight as almost any monogamous
- bond, but that it is exceedingly rare among men -- or straight men,
- anyway. The book is in part a document of the (hetero) author's
- quest for something that close with another man.
-
- I would still question the "virtual lesbian" notion, though.
- ---
- Michael Turner
- miket@tcs.com
-