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- From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
- Subject: Re: Let's be more specific (was: Stupid Shut Cost arguements)
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- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:53:30 GMT
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- In <1993Jan7.034841.19216@ptdcs2.intel.com> greason@ptdcs2.intel.com (Jeff Greason ~) writes:
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- >While your arguments about availability are sound in principle, they
- >ignore the element of risk. Shuttle availability has a long time window
- >to availability, in months, but it is reasonably likely to be available
- >when predicted to be, with some error margin <error margin because the
- >schedule is ill-controlled, only "reasonably likely" because of the
- >possiblity of another crippling accident shutting the STS down>
-
- It wouldn't take a crippling accident to ground the Shuttle fleet
- for several months. History has shown that. It could be something
- as simple as a crane running into the side of the orbiter stack
- or a problem with the APUs.
-
- If an orbiter hits one of the wild pigs, which live just yards from
- the Shuttle runway, it could put the vehicle out of action for more
- than a year, resulting in delays or cancellations of many payloads.
-
- And when (not if -- given enough Shuttle missions, it will happen)
- there is another fatal accident, Congress and the White House will
- shut the program down for at least another two years *if not permanently*.
-
- If assured access to space was a concern, NASA would being buying
- Soyuz spacecraft/launchers right now, just to hedge its bet.
-
-
- >One point that gets lost is that while DC-X is "bent metal" and will
- >solidly demonstrate the "quick turn" aspects of a launch vehicle (or
- >not), it will NOT demonstrate the key SSTO capability of a vehicle with
- >the extremely small "dry mass" necessary to make SSTO work
-
- The "extreme mass ratio" is an aerospace legend. We've been
- building vehicles with similar mass ratios for the last 30
- years. The Shuttle external tank has the right mass. So
- did the Saturn S-IVB stage.
-
-
- >This is a fairly long-winded lead in to say that no matter how great DC
- >may be, you cannot stop shuttle flights before an operational DC capability
- >exists,
-
- But we will, the first time someone whose nameplate says "astronaut"
- gets killed.
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