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- From: keithley@apple.com (Craig Keithley)
- Newsgroups: sci.space
- Subject: Re: Let's be more specific (was: Stupid Shut Cost arguements)
- Message-ID: <keithley-050193083234@kip2-59.apple.com>
- Date: 5 Jan 93 17:24:18 GMT
- References: <1992Dec28.172953.26161@ke4zv.uucp> <1992Dec28.202920.5932@iti.org> <1993Jan1.030602.21051@ke4zv.uucp> <1993Jan2.043524.15196@iti.org>
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- In article <1993Jan2.043524.15196@iti.org>, aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
- wrote:
- >
- > NASA is chartered as a research organization, not an operational agency.
- > Shuttle is operations, not research.
- >
-
- And NASA also owns a wide variety of aircraft (ie: T-38, Gulfstreams,
- Lears, etc.) and capital equipment (buildings, computers, wind tunnels,
- etc.) that it uses for operations. I'll ignore the capital equipment. But
- if I follow your argument, all flights not related to research should be
- provided by a private firm? What about training? What about flights in
- and out of Edwards? I'd bet that NASA owns a few flight articles that are
- used for operations and not for research. Do we apply your argument
- against using the shuttle for operations to those areas as well?
-
- The Shuttle supporters (for the most part) continue to question whether or
- not the DC-X/Y/1 supporters are suggesting that we cancel Shuttle before
- DC-X/Y/1 is operational. I've requested that the DC-? proponents put up a
- straw man proposal of exactly when the Shuttle would be phased out. This
- request was ignored. I'll reiterate the request: Exactly when do you
- propose discontinuing Shuttle operations? Exactly when do you believe DC-1
- will fly? Exactly what will happen if DC-1, for whatever reason, is years
- late, or turns out to be as problematical or more problematical as the
- Shuttle?
-
- Its my impression that the Shuttle supporters are against shelving the
- United States' manned space program merely to save a few billion a year.
- They aren't against saving money, they aren't against DC-1, they just
- believe that there are unacceptable risks associated with depending on a
- system that isn't flight ready, let alone exist. I will not support a
- position that requires the cancellation of the US's manned space program
- years in advance of a replacement from the private sector.
-
- But if you continue to believe that the supporters of the Shuttle are, by
- definition, anti DC-X/Y/1, then continuing any discussion is pointless.
-
- Craig Keithley
- Apple Computer, Inc.
- keithley@apple.com
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