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- From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
- Subject: Re: Stupid Shut Cost arguements (was Re: Terminal Velocity
- Message-ID: <1993Jan4.150349.13435@iti.org>
- Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
- References: <30DEC199220055213@judy.uh.edu> <1992Dec31.181253.6849@iti.org> <2JAN199317122705@judy.uh.edu>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:03:49 GMT
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- In article <2JAN199317122705@judy.uh.edu> wingo%cspara.decnet@Fedex.Msfc.Nasa.Gov writes:
-
- >From all of the posts that I have seen in the last few months from you, it
- >seems that you live in Allen's world.
-
- I don't have much choice in that respect. I say again, one feature of Allen's
- world is that I need to provide my customers a real return on their investment
- of they won't hire me. At the same time, I need to bid projects so that all
- our costs are covered. Unlike NASA, I can't simply decide to loose money
- and expect the taxpayers to make good.
-
- >This world is where you pick and choose your own numbers and play them the
- >way you want to make your systems look desirable.
-
- Dennis, I know this is hard to understand but I don't pick the vehicle I
- like and then justify it. I pick the systems which can be justified and
- support them. That is why, for example, I was a shuttle supporter until
- about 83 when I concluded it simply wasn't working and dropped it.
-
- My devotion is to a goal, not a launcher or an organization.
-
- This is why I use the same numbers for launchers I use in my professional
- life. As somebody who must earn his keep I know that our systems must
- recoup ALL their costs one way or another.
-
- >is just your accounting that are unrealistic, as you forget to charge against
- >your vehicle, what you so decry me for not doing with the Shuttle.
-
- I refer you to my recent breakout of DC vs Shuttle costs. I thought I
- was bending over backwards to make Shuttle look good. In that posting
- exactly what cost did I allocate to Shuttle but not to DC?
-
- >The simple point that I was trying to make that you totally missed is that
- >the marginal cost as described in the November 28-December 9 issue of
- >space news for adding another mission is 37 million dollars maximum.
-
- Oh no, I fully understand what marginal cost means. You however seem
- to feel that is an excuse to ignore costs and charge what you want
- to for arbitrary flights. That isn't acceptable in the real world.
-
- I did agree to let you do it when you convince GM to sell you a
- Corvet for the marginal cost of a Corvet. let me know when you do;
- until then, I'll stick to assigning all costs to the project.
-
- Allen
-
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