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- From: DROEGE@fnald.fnal.gov
- Subject: Bubbles
- Message-ID: <930105122413.20a07695@FNALD.FNAL.GOV>
- Sender: scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller)
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- Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:27:38 GMT
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- Terry Bollinger has been corresponding with me about his bubble ideas. This
- has reminded me that Fermilab once had a 15' bubble chamber, and there have
- been many other bubble chambers operated over the years.
-
- To introduce bubble chambers, I am reminded fo physics folk lore. It seems
- Don Glasser was opening a bottle of beer, and noticed a streak of bubbles
- that appeared as he opened it. Being a good physicist, he tried to explain
- the streak, and concluded that a cosmic ray had passed through the bottle just
- as he opened it. The cosmic ray left ionized beer molecules which then became
- the nucleation sites for bubbles which formed in the super heated beer caused
- by the decompression of the opening. Fortunately the beer can had not yet
- been invented, so Don Glasser won a Nobel prize. Ever since physics students
- have been devoted beer drinkers.
-
- Modern bubble chambers worked with a large piston. Fermilab's was 15' and
- there was at least one even larger. Someone correct me but I believe that
- there are no bubble chambers currently in operation. The chambers were
- usually placed inside a large magnet, and surrounded by trigger electronics.
-
- A particle beam would be directed through the chamber, and when the
- the electronics detected an interesting event (like a beam particle in, but no
- beam particle out - meaning there had been an interaction) the piston would
- expand the chamber contents. Some time later, the time determined by the
- bubble groth rate to get optimum resolution, a flash tube would be fired to
- expose film. The film was then sent of the measureing machines where the
- tracks (in 3 D) were measured, and computations made on the results.
-
- Now why does this relate to Terry's bubble ideas? Well sometimes the chambers
- were operated with liquid D2. Remember, the expansion of the chamber forms
- bubbles. These colapse some time later. Perhaps these collapsing bubbles
- cause D - D interactions. As Terry would say a "far fetch".
-
- What we need is to look at some "double expansions" where the bubble chamber
- was expanded a second time shortly after the first expansion so tracks coming
- off a bubble collapse might be seen. I know that the Fermilab chamber
- sometimes triggered more than once per spill, i.e. at less than a second after
- the first expansion. Then there was the PPA chamber that went 20 times a
- second.
-
- So does anyone out there know where to finde such film. (Douglas Morrison are
- you listening?)
-
- The problem is that bubble chamber experiments are very expensive, and no one
- would likely support running one for such a wild idea. But if the right old
- film can be found, it might be worth looking.
-
- Tom Droege
-