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- From: bweiner@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Benjamin Weiner)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Speed of neutrinos
- Message-ID: <Jan.12.15.48.41.1993.18454@ruhets.rutgers.edu>
- Date: 12 Jan 93 20:48:42 GMT
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- Matt Austern writes:
-
- >It is well established that the speed of the neutrino is *close to*
- >the speed of light. I don't know how precisely it has been measured.
-
- >I suspect that the best measurement is probably from the SN1987a
- >supernova: several groups detected neutrino bursts at roughly the same
- >time as the maximum brightness of the supernova. At this kind of
- >distance, even a slight difference between the speed of neutrinos and
- >the speed of light would have made a big timing difference.
-
- True; and this argument can be extended - the various neutrino detectors
- saw neutrinos with a certain spread in energy (maybe 8 MeV) over a small
- timespan (few seconds?). You can use this, and the known distance to
- SN 1987a, to set an upper limit on the neutrino mass, (assuming the
- neutrinos were all emitted at exactly the same time; if there is a spread
- the mass limit gets lower yet). This also gives you a lower limit on a
- neutrino's velocity (from E^2 = m^2 + p^2). One nice thing about this
- calculation is that it is independent of the details of supernovae,
- neutrino flashes vs. light curves, etc.
-
- For a 20 eV neutrino with 8 MeV energy, I get v = c * ( 1 - 3 x 10^-12 )
- which is pretty close to 1, although this calculation comes with no
- warranty, explicit or implied, of merchantability, fitness, or usability.
-