home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech
- Path: sparky!uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!relay.philips.nl!prle!hpas5!schiller
- From: schiller@prl.philips.nl (schiller c)
- Subject: Which theory before observation ?
- Message-ID: <schiller.726487694@hpas5>
- Sender: news@prl.philips.nl (USENET News System)
- Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
- References: <102936.2005.14241@kcbbs.gen.nz> <C0FssI.DtF@unx.sas.com> <schiller.726394556@hpas5> <C0HLqI.LA@unx.sas.com>
- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:08:14 GMT
- Lines: 40
-
- sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) writes:
-
-
- >|> If in physics one had always dismissed "simplistic" arguments,
- >|> one would have got nowhere. On the contrary, the textbooks are
- >|> full of "simplistic" solutions to difficult problems.
-
- >By *definition*, a *simplistic* solution is not a solution (think
- >along the lines of "false friend").
-
- >I did, by the way, not merely *label* the position as simplistic,
- >but went on at some length to indicate its flaws (which in any
- >event are well known).
-
- My position as a scientist is that facts, i.e. the results of observation,
- are the basis of theories. There are no "well-known" flaws of this position.
-
- Some in the discussion quoted scientists (e.g. Eddington) saying that every
- observation needs a preceding theory. Well, some scientists are
- unsatisfied by the approach to the world that science pursues,
- and Eddington surely felt this very deeply to be so. I can follow his
- unsatisfaction, but do not agree with it. He resolved it by
- saying that science is somehow wrong, and he concluded that
- this is due to the theoretical framework which supposedly, he says,
- brings people to mix facts and personal prejudices, leading to
- his statement that theory preceds fact.
-
- The discussion would become more interesting if somebody of the opposing camp
- would give a precise example of which "theory" is necessary to observe
- something ! (Eddington surely was not able to do so ...)
-
- Christoph Schiller
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-