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- Message-ID: <19930112.153810648363.NETNEWS@ALIJKU11>
- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:38:10 CET
- Newsgroups: sci.math.symbolic
- From: keichhor@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Kurt Eichhorn)
- Distribution: usa
- References: <1993Jan6.200956.8242@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
- Organization: RISC, J.K. University of Linz, Austria
- Subject: Re: Maple problem
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- In article <1993Jan6.200956.8242@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, mefels@triples.math.mcgill.ca (Mark Fels) writes:
- >
- > Anyone know what's going on here...
- >
- >
- >
- > simplify(a^2*b^2,{a*b=sqrt(2),a^2=2+sqrt(2),b^2=2-sqrt(2)});
- >
- > 0
- >
- > Thanks,
- >Mark Fels.
-
- Maple V Release 2 gives a different answer:
-
- > simplify(a^2*b^2,{a*b=sqrt(2),a^2=2+sqrt(2),b^2=2-sqrt(2)});
- Error, (in simplify/siderels)
- invalid side relations: Grobner basis contains the element 1
-
- But all Versions do it correct, if one omits th last rule:
-
- > simplify(a^2*b^2,{a*b=sqrt(2),a^2=2+sqrt(2)});
-
- 2
-
-
- Probabbly the troubles come from the fact that if a^2=2+sqrt(2), a could
- be positive or negative. This might lead to a contradiction (a*b = "-sqrt(2)")
- in the rules. From a contradiction one can conlude everthing:
-
- > simplify(a*b,{a=1,b=2});
-
- 2
-
- but
- > simplify(a*b,{a=1,b=2,a+b=4});
-
- 0
-
-
- Gruetzi, Kurt.
-
- P.S.: There was a long discussion on this topic in this newsgroup
- a few months ago. The real "funny" thing is the error message in V.2.
-