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- From: ilan@leland.Stanford.EDU (ilan vardi)
- Subject: Re: Job Application Skills
- Message-ID: <1993Jan12.022602.24371@leland.Stanford.EDU>
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- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 02:26:02 GMT
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- In article <93011.175039U53644@uicvm.uic.edu> <U53644@uicvm.uic.edu>
- writes:
- >Uhhhhhh...........Well, at the risk of repeating some bad
- history.......
- > > Yes, recent graduates in Mathematics HAVE been having a rough time
- >getting work, as almost everyone acknowledges right now (kind of like
- >admitting that the weather has been getting cold). However, while I might
- >respect the determination of someone who is about to renew his abandoned job
- >hunt, I can't respect his judgement. After a while, one has to face the reality
- >that a certain avenue of attack is futile, and try something else.
- > > Find an area of application, be it engineering, medicine, computer
- >science, business, whatever - so long as your area of Mathematics finds real
- >application there (I'm afraid that Differential Geometers are out of
- luck here)
- >. Develop real expertise in that field, and branch out
- into it. Don't fall prey
- >to the preconception that application work
- is dry and uncreative - far from it.
- >OK, so you aren't going to get that academic post.
-
- You have completely missed the point. Mathematicians aren't in
- Academia just because they like to teach classes, make money, or just
- enjoy wearing tweed coats with shoulder patches. One of the main
- reasons is that academia seems to be the only place left where
- mathematicians can do research. As a matter of fact, if a university
- professor doesn't care about research at all he should probably be
- called a ``mathematics teacher'' and not a mathematician. There are a
- number of active mathematicians not presently in academia who are
- finding it harder and harder to pursue their research, and would be
- perfectly content to stay out if they could carry on with their work
- (I suspect that Allan Adler, the instigator of this discussion, is a
- prime example).
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