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- From: petex@cix.compulink.co.uk (Peter Christian)
- Subject: Re: Morphological development of the genitive case in German
- Reply-To: petex@cix.compulink.co.uk
- Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:33:00 +0000
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- In-Reply-To: <memo.852141@cix.compulink.co.uk> petex@cix.compulink.co.uk (Peter Christian)
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- > > If masculine and neuter nouns change their ending in the genitive as -es, as in
- > > die Mutter meines Vaters, and feminine nouns don't have the -es ending, as in
- > > der Vater meiner Mutter, why when making compound nouns with feminine nouns is
- > > there sometimes something like die VergangenheitSbewaeltigung? Notice the
- > > genitive 's' there, I would conjecture that it follows from a pronunciation
- > > rule,
- >
- > I don't *know* the answer to this but I can think of two
- > non-exclusive answers. 1) The point you suggest about pronunciation (not
- > a rule, though, it's too irregular for that), i.e. to ease the
- > transition between two consonants. 2) But initially probably the analogy
- > of the masc. & neuters where people must have come to regard it as a
- > compounding feature rather than as a reflex of the genitive. It would
- > certainly be interesting to find the earliest example of this -s-
- > with a feminine.
-
- A fuller version of the latter hypothesis:
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- Originally it was possible for the genitive to precede the headword,
- as in Des Kaben Wunderhorn, Des Teufels General etc. And the compound
- with a masc. or neut. determinative derived its -s- from this
- genitive. However, once the syntactical rule changed and the genitive
- could only follow the head, the case function of the -s- was obscured
- and it was taken to be a feature of compounding in general and thus
- transferable to feminines.
-
- I think this motivates the usage better.
-
- Peter
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- Peter Christian
- Dept of European Languages peter@gold.ac.uk
- Goldsmiths' College, London. petex@cix.compulink.co.uk
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